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Old 07-04-2020, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Minneapolis did not have enough police personnel to deal with the riots as they brewed up, so, really, they do need more officers. What needs to be disbanded is the city council.
Amen!

 
Old 07-04-2020, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Inadequately trained and vetted..didnt one of the officers who sat on Floyd legs have seven convictions before becoming a cop..there is something very wrong here...
No, that is incorrect. You are probably referring to complaints against Chauvin. Resolving complaints without disciplining the officer is not uncommon simply because many complaints are false. Most complaints are filed by criminals.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 05:42 AM
 
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https://kstp.com/news/attorney-minne...-2020/5780297/


One of the issues is that noone is going to want to go into law enforcement as a profession.


Departments will be fighting over officers, raising wages to get people to apply.


It's a no win situation.


Minneapolis could be down 200+ officers in the next year. There are more looking for employment with other departments.



Pretty soon the "Defund the Police" movement will get their wish.


Sad really.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 05:51 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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These are the people you voted for as representatives, enjoy and have a nice day.
This is it in a nutshell. Many Democrats in Mpls are well off financially, have nice homes, luxury cars, send kids to to private schools, play expensive club sports, and their kids will head off to expensive colleges. They worked hard, went to school, did the right things & prospered. Capitalism has been very good to them. They voted for Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar & a host of extremist clowns on the City Council. It all seemed so fun and hip. As they watched Frey tell the police to stand down & let Lake St burn, they started raising an eyebrow. When Frey told the police to surrender the police precinct, they did a double take to see if that could be real? Then they woke up one morning and their kids asked them why the air was full of smoke? Then they drove to the Holiday in their own neighborhoods to get gas & a doughnut, and it had been burned down. Then Antifa started talking about home owners being the oppressors & how the fight needed to be taken to the rich people, not just on Lake St. Then the Mpls City Council voted to abolish the police. That's when they realized, they'd screwed up. They like the police. They want MORE police in fact. You know what those people did? They bought guns. Oh yes, they now saw the value of the 2nd amendment. They watched Youtube videos of store owners fending off the mobs with assault rifles & suddenly their opinion on assault rifles changed. Now they're watching nationwide as mobs attack innocent motorists & home owners. They're watching statues fall, not of Confederates, but of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, even Frederick Douglass. Then they watched the left turn the 4th of July & Mt Rushmore into symbols of White Supremacy & thought, "I'm getting sick of this crap!". You know what they're doing right now? They're politely smiling as BLM/Antifa tear down our country, but when Nov 3rd comes along & no one's looking over their shoulder, they're going to vote for law & order.

Sometimes telling people isn't enough. Sometimes you have to show them.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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This is it in a nutshell. Many Democrats in Mpls are well off financially, have nice homes, luxury cars, send kids to to private schools, play expensive club sports, and their kids will head off to expensive colleges. They worked hard, went to school, did the right things & prospered. Capitalism has been very good to them. They voted for Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar & a host of extremist clowns on the City Council. It all seemed so fun and hip. As they watched Frey tell the police to stand down & let Lake St burn, they started raising an eyebrow. When Frey told the police to surrender the police precinct, they did a double take to see if that could be real? Then they woke up one morning and their kids asked them why the air was full of smoke? Then they drove to the Holiday in their own neighborhoods to get gas & a doughnut, and it had been burned down. Then Antifa started talking about home owners being the oppressors & how the fight needed to be taken to the rich people, not just on Lake St. Then the Mpls City Council voted to abolish the police. That's when they realized, they'd screwed up. They like the police. They want MORE police in fact. You know what those people did? They bought guns. Oh yes, they now saw the value of the 2nd amendment. They watched Youtube videos of store owners fending off the mobs with assault rifles & suddenly their opinion on assault rifles changed. Now they're watching nationwide as mobs attack innocent motorists & home owners. They're watching statues fall, not of Confederates, but of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, even Frederick Douglass. Then they watched the left turn the 4th of July & Mt Rushmore into symbols of White Supremacy & thought, "I'm getting sick of this crap!". You know what they're doing right now? They're politely smiling as BLM/Antifa tear down our country, but when Nov 3rd comes along & no one's looking over their shoulder, they're going to vote for law & order.

Sometimes telling people isn't enough. Sometimes you have to show them.
I am not convinced about the bolded part, but I would really love to be proven wrong.

I have extended family/friends spread throughout MN, and most of them are still doubling down on how these uber progressive policies didn't go far enough, which is why the twin cities have the problems they do now.

Sometimes you cannot fix willful ignorance.
 
Old 07-06-2020, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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I am not convinced about the bolded part, but I would really love to be proven wrong.

I have extended family/friends spread throughout MN, and most of them are still doubling down on how these uber progressive policies didn't go far enough, which is why the twin cities have the problems they do now.

Sometimes you cannot fix willful ignorance.
I think you are correct. For one thing, there won’t be any “law and order” candidates on the local ballot. For another, while most people agree that MPD is sorely in need of reforms (think back to what happened to Justine Damond) many people in Minneapolis are of a different mind as to what needs to be done. The movement to completely reorganize the police dept. and take away many of their responsibilities seems to have a lot of support.
 
Old 07-06-2020, 07:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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This is it in a nutshell. Many Democrats in Mpls are well off financially, have nice homes, luxury cars, send kids to to private schools, play expensive club sports, and their kids will head off to expensive colleges. They worked hard, went to school, did the right things & prospered. Capitalism has been very good to them. They voted for Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar & a host of extremist clowns on the City Council. It all seemed so fun and hip. As they watched Frey tell the police to stand down & let Lake St burn, they started raising an eyebrow. When Frey told the police to surrender the police precinct, they did a double take to see if that could be real? Then they woke up one morning and their kids asked them why the air was full of smoke? Then they drove to the Holiday in their own neighborhoods to get gas & a doughnut, and it had been burned down. Then Antifa started talking about home owners being the oppressors & how the fight needed to be taken to the rich people, not just on Lake St. Then the Mpls City Council voted to abolish the police. That's when they realized, they'd screwed up. They like the police. They want MORE police in fact. You know what those people did? They bought guns. Oh yes, they now saw the value of the 2nd amendment. They watched Youtube videos of store owners fending off the mobs with assault rifles & suddenly their opinion on assault rifles changed. Now they're watching nationwide as mobs attack innocent motorists & home owners. They're watching statues fall, not of Confederates, but of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, even Frederick Douglass. Then they watched the left turn the 4th of July & Mt Rushmore into symbols of White Supremacy & thought, "I'm getting sick of this crap!". You know what they're doing right now? They're politely smiling as BLM/Antifa tear down our country, but when Nov 3rd comes along & no one's looking over their shoulder, they're going to vote for law & order.

Sometimes telling people isn't enough. Sometimes you have to show them.
Correct on all counts. This has been a very expensive social experiment on the taxpayer's dime. Cue the song "Won't Get Fooled Again" in November.

Last edited by TheOldPuss; 07-06-2020 at 08:30 AM..
 
Old 07-06-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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I say let the Libs learn the hard way. Get rid of police, let the Dem run cities turn into lawless war zones. Soon they will be begging to have police back and they will have a WHOLE NEW appreciation for what they do.
 
Old 07-06-2020, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Just West of Wonder
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Precisely.
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Amen!
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Originally Posted by Mason3000 View Post
This is it in a nutshell. Many Democrats in Mpls are well off financially, have nice homes, luxury cars, send kids to to private schools, play expensive club sports, and their kids will head off to expensive colleges. They worked hard, went to school, did the right things & prospered. Capitalism has been very good to them. They voted for Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar & a host of extremist clowns on the City Council. It all seemed so fun and hip. As they watched Frey tell the police to stand down & let Lake St burn, they started raising an eyebrow. When Frey told the police to surrender the police precinct, they did a double take to see if that could be real? Then they woke up one morning and their kids asked them why the air was full of smoke? Then they drove to the Holiday in their own neighborhoods to get gas & a doughnut, and it had been burned down. Then Antifa started talking about home owners being the oppressors & how the fight needed to be taken to the rich people, not just on Lake St. Then the Mpls City Council voted to abolish the police. That's when they realized, they'd screwed up. They like the police. They want MORE police in fact. You know what those people did? They bought guns. Oh yes, they now saw the value of the 2nd amendment. They watched Youtube videos of store owners fending off the mobs with assault rifles & suddenly their opinion on assault rifles changed. Now they're watching nationwide as mobs attack innocent motorists & home owners. They're watching statues fall, not of Confederates, but of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, even Frederick Douglass. Then they watched the left turn the 4th of July & Mt Rushmore into symbols of White Supremacy & thought, "I'm getting sick of this crap!". You know what they're doing right now? They're politely smiling as BLM/Antifa tear down our country, but when Nov 3rd comes along & no one's looking over their shoulder, they're going to vote for law & order.

Sometimes telling people isn't enough. Sometimes you have to show them.
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Originally Posted by TheOldPuss View Post
Correct on all counts. This has been a very expensive social experiment on the taxpayer's dime. Cue the song "Won't Get Fooled Again" in November.
 
Old 07-06-2020, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Just West of Wonder
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Originally Posted by Mason3000 View Post
This is it in a nutshell. Many Democrats in Mpls are well off financially, have nice homes, luxury cars, send kids to to private schools, play expensive club sports, and their kids will head off to expensive colleges. They worked hard, went to school, did the right things & prospered. Capitalism has been very good to them. They voted for Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar & a host of extremist clowns on the City Council. It all seemed so fun and hip. As they watched Frey tell the police to stand down & let Lake St burn, they started raising an eyebrow. When Frey told the police to surrender the police precinct, they did a double take to see if that could be real? Then they woke up one morning and their kids asked them why the air was full of smoke? Then they drove to the Holiday in their own neighborhoods to get gas & a doughnut, and it had been burned down. Then Antifa started talking about home owners being the oppressors & how the fight needed to be taken to the rich people, not just on Lake St. Then the Mpls City Council voted to abolish the police. That's when they realized, they'd screwed up. They like the police. They want MORE police in fact. You know what those people did? They bought guns. Oh yes, they now saw the value of the 2nd amendment. They watched Youtube videos of store owners fending off the mobs with assault rifles & suddenly their opinion on assault rifles changed. Now they're watching nationwide as mobs attack innocent motorists & home owners. They're watching statues fall, not of Confederates, but of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, even Frederick Douglass. Then they watched the left turn the 4th of July & Mt Rushmore into symbols of White Supremacy & thought, "I'm getting sick of this crap!". You know what they're doing right now? They're politely smiling as BLM/Antifa tear down our country, but when Nov 3rd comes along & no one's looking over their shoulder, they're going to vote for law & order.

Sometimes telling people isn't enough. Sometimes you have to show them.
Nicely worded.
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