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11-05-2008, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by summer grace
The transplants are the best people in the midwest, take it from me!
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Funny, some say that's true in the southeast as well. 
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11-05-2008, 12:28 PM
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Location: IA, but in my heart New Orleans
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I actually am more attracted to places with transplants as people seem to be more accepting and less judgemental of where you are from, what last name you have, etc than places where most people have been there their whole life. I think small towns are the way to go if you want a place where people are born, stay and die. I think the midwest in general isn't alot of transplants, and it is the midwestern attitutude to look down on outsiders alot, say you move somewhere in the midwest and you are from another area of the midwest- you may not get accepted. I don't mind/ and like places with lots of people from there as long as they accept you and don't make you feel like an alien. I haven't traveled much, but did work at a museum and met people from all over the US and world and so have seen people from different areas- and enjoyed it. I like the midwest in part, but smalltowns and small town people, not at all.
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11-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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My only qualm - and a slight qualm, I'm not foaming at the mouth by any means - my only qualm with transplants is, if they're only here for a few years before moving on to Cleveland or Atlanta or Paris, then where is your incentive to support school bonding bills if your kids are a few years away yet or safely tucked in a private school, or your support for infrastructure funding if you won't get any benefit from it, or social programs ... or pricing neighborhoods out of most local's ability to pay? If an area loses its native charm and becomes yet another generic hangout, whether its Kolbe hand-massaged steak houses with celebrity chefs or Starbucks chasing out the local coffee shop because all the transplants know is the franchise place and you lose that really great coffeehouse, or its all Applebees/Olive Garden all the time then it all becomes a part of that classic quandry ... and nothing personal, and not even all that strongly held, but it is a small point to think about now and again.
In many respects transplants are good to have and improve the local economy and make for a more open, interesting experience, its important to have them, but ... in balance and good measure, which is what the original poster was asking about, whether or not a place was good for putting down roots or if it had lost all of that local flavor and commitment and has become a soulless corporate shell.
It doesn't help in the twin cities that the most high profile transplants tend to slice and dice our hometown airline with risky leveraged buyouts, or move or threaten to move sports teams on a personal whim (what? We won't ignore sexual harrasment? But he's RICH!) or we refuse to blink when they demand a half-billion dollar stadium "or else". There always seems to be some high-flyer coming around thinking we can be played just because we're on the prairie.
...and yes, I have rewritten this several times because I don't want to come off as a cranky parochial...
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11-06-2008, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Haver
My only qualm - and a slight qualm, I'm not foaming at the mouth by any means - my only qualm with transplants is, if they're only here for a few years before moving on to Cleveland or Atlanta or Paris
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Moving on to Cleveland? Ummmm, no. That doesn't happen.
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11-06-2008, 07:54 PM
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I'd rather be fishing
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Originally Posted by Haver
My only qualm - and a slight qualm, I'm not foaming at the mouth by any means - my only qualm with transplants is, if they're only here for a few years before moving on to Cleveland or Atlanta or Paris, then where is your incentive to support school bonding bills if your kids are a few years away yet or safely tucked in a private school, or your support for infrastructure funding if you won't get any benefit from it, or social programs ... or pricing neighborhoods out of most local's ability to pay? If an area loses its native charm and becomes yet another generic hangout, whether its Kolbe hand-massaged steak houses with celebrity chefs or Starbucks chasing out the local coffee shop because all the transplants know is the franchise place and you lose that really great coffeehouse, or its all Applebees/Olive Garden all the time then it all becomes a part of that classic quandry ... and nothing personal, and not even all that strongly held, but it is a small point to think about now and again.
In many respects transplants are good to have and improve the local economy and make for a more open, interesting experience, its important to have them, but ... in balance and good measure, which is what the original poster was asking about, whether or not a place was good for putting down roots or if it had lost all of that local flavor and commitment and has become a soulless corporate shell.
It doesn't help in the twin cities that the most high profile transplants tend to slice and dice our hometown airline with risky leveraged buyouts, or move or threaten to move sports teams on a personal whim (what? We won't ignore sexual harrasment? But he's RICH!) or we refuse to blink when they demand a half-billion dollar stadium "or else". There always seems to be some high-flyer coming around thinking we can be played just because we're on the prairie.
...and yes, I have rewritten this several times because I don't want to come off as a cranky parochial...
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You are just expressing your thoughts in a respectfull way so no worries about coming off cranky.
Personally, I think school bonding support might be a bit much to expect from the new guy. Seems plenty of locals are not big fans either.
real estate market is driven by demmand. last I checked there is pleny of organic growth around here, so pointing rising cost at transplants might be a bit misplaced although it surely has some effect.
I am with you in not being a big fan of the cookie cutter francises. Seems to be more of an issue in the burbs where growth is a bit faster. Big business is setup for growth and they tend to move into new areas quickly. That could change if the credit market stays tight.
Funny story for you. I lived in Nebraska for about a year when I was young. Before I had the moving truck unloaded the local cop showed up and told me I had 10 days to get nebraska plates or he would tow my car even if it was in the driveway. Nice welcome wagon eh?
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11-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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Well, I suppose I could make my first million making "Native Minnesotan" bumper stickers so the natives can flaunt their nativeness like so many of the "Native Texans" down here. 
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11-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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The City of Lakes
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Originally Posted by BJB817
Well, I suppose I could make my first million making "Native Minnesotan" bumper stickers so the natives can flaunt their nativeness like so many of the "Native Texans" down here. 
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South Carolina has its palmetto, Texas has its Lone Star. I'm a fan of making the North Star our state symbol
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11-06-2008, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BJB817
Well, I suppose I could make my first million making "Native Minnesotan" bumper stickers so the natives can flaunt their nativeness like so many of the "Native Texans" down here. 
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I think you would be more likely to lose your first million trying to sell those here. 
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11-09-2008, 12:26 AM
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Professional Bit Twiddler
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Originally Posted by Minnehahapolitan
South Carolina has its palmetto, Texas has its Lone Star. I'm a fan of making the North Star our state symbol
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Too bad the green-and-gold North Stars can't still be our symbol.
No, I will never forget. Norms sucks. Full stop. 
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11-09-2008, 10:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnehahapolitan
South Carolina has its palmetto, Texas has its Lone Star. I'm a fan of making the North Star our state symbol
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