Why does Brooklyn Park have such a bad rap? (Brooklyn Center: apartment complexes, rent)

[mrkue]

are you kidding? Brooklyn park?

[dmg1mn]

Originally Posted by moving123456

You are only looking at murders and not factoring in all the other crimes. Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn Center always have the highest crime rates of all the suburbs. They did not get their bad reputations just because everybody else is racist.

Brooklyn Park
Population: 69,942
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 347.3
2004: 346.8
2005: 361.5
Brooklyn Park, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Brooklyn Center
Population: 27,371
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 519.4
2004: 525.8
2005: 513.8
Brooklyn Center, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

I have lived in Brooklyn Center for 2.5 years. Previously I had lived in NE Mpls for 1.5 Years and the Eastside of St. Paul for 4 years.
Since moving to Brooklyn Center, My Car has been broken into twice (my Car window smashed out once), My Room-mates car has been broken into at least 5 times (Car window currently is smashed out). Things have been taken from our Garage several times now.

This is all new to me since moving to Brooklyn Center. I guess my previous 30 years were un-eventful.

[IncredibleKaren]

I've lived in Brooklyn Park for the last 10 years. I feel like BP gets a bad rap because of the apartments. I do live in one of the apartment buildings and I even voted yes for the apartment referendum a few years ago LOL.
Quality of life near the apartments is not that good. You hear police sirens all day and night. My little sister even asked me why she always hears sirens whenever she visits me. People are inconsiderate, talking and yelling super loud at all hours, playing their music loud in cars, blowing their horns.
There are several stores in walking distance but the one day I decide to walk I was harassed by a group of guys lingering around the store door. I'm getting a little too old to deal with stuff like that so I plan to relocate to Champlin or Osseo once my lease ends. I will say that I've never been a victim of crime but there have been many times that I have felt unsafe in that part of town.

[lukeache]

Originally Posted by Lillietta

To me, affordable is $100,000-$180,000, tops! Is St. Paul my only option?

Actually Ive been househunting and guess what! I have seen townhouses (online) for sale with 1500 square feet in Minnetonka, Plymouth for LESS than $200,000 Would you settle for a townhouse?

I dislike townhomes immensely. I mean, $200,000 is a lot of money for a townhome. Some townhomes are poorly built and have very thin walls.Some townhome communities, like the homes are so cramped together, it is almost the same as living in an apartment complex. Also, you cant change townhomes to your liking and you are tied to HOA fees and other types of BS. I would buy a townhome only as a last resort.

[HW312]

A few northern metro suburbs of the Twin Cities like Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center, Columbia Heights, and New Brighton have a few what you could almost call slumlord low income rental apartment complexes that have attracted 'elements' from Mpls. North and a few other crime hot spots and has significantly increased the crime rates the last decade which is kind of high for small town suburban living. I think this is why Brooklyn Park has unduly gotten a somewhat negative image in recent years. It is unfortunate as over 90 percent of the homes/neighborhoods are quite nice except for these fringe rentals causing crime problems.
As far as demographics Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn Center have much more diverse populations now that have come from the core Mpls. area and from recent Africa/Asia immigrants settling in Anoka-Hennepin County.

[Camden Northsider]

Originally Posted by HW312

A few northern metro suburbs of the Twin Cities like Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center, Columbia Heights, and New Brighton have a few what you could almost call slumlord low income rental apartment complexes that have attracted 'elements' from Mpls. North and a few other crime hot spots and has significantly increased the crime rates the last decade which is kind of high for small town suburban living. I think this is why Brooklyn Park has unduly gotten a somewhat negative image in recent years. It is unfortunate as over 90 percent of the homes/neighborhoods are quite nice except for these fringe rentals causing crime problems.
As far as demographics Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn Center have much more diverse populations now that have come from the core Mpls. area and from recent Africa/Asia immigrants settling in Anoka-Hennepin County.

HW312, what sources are you utilizing to document this migration of 'elements' as you call it from core Mpls areas/ North Minneapolis to Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park? Or is this a personal theory? It is true that there are recent immigrants from Ethiopia and Liberia that have settled in the northern suburbs of Brooklyn Center/Park, but what makes you think the overall increase in diversity isn't coming from persons relocating to these areas from other areas of the country?

[pirate_lafitte]

I'm just throwing this out as a ballpark figure. I have checked some of the crime stats for Brooklyn Park and there are much more violent areas besides BP. It is quite a coincidence(and I could be wrong) that the suburb that gets a bad rap also happens to have a high black population in comparison to the rest of MN outside of the Twin Cities. Just something to think about.

[moving123456]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

I'm just throwing this out as a ballpark figure. I have checked some of the crime stats for Brooklyn Park and there are much more violent areas besides BP. It is quite a coincidence(and I could be wrong) that the suburb that gets a bad rap also happens to have a high black population in comparison to the rest of MN outside of the Twin Cities. Just something to think about.

It does not get a bad rap just because we know that black people live there.

It gets a bad rap for having a higher overall crime rate than the average Twin Cities suburb. Some also lump it together with Brooklyn Center which is even worse for crime because of the similar names, but Brooklyn Park is no Mayberry on its own. Look through the data pages of this site and try to find a Twin Cities suburb other than Brooklyn Center with a higher yearly average crime rate than Brooklyn Park. Here is the Minnesota page so you can get started.

Brooklyn Park is a little over what is considered a "National Average", but it is high for the Twin Cities suburbs.

As I posted earlier in this thread.....

Brooklyn Park
Population: 69,942
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 347.3
2004: 346.8
2005: 361.5
Brooklyn Park, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Brooklyn Center
Population: 27,371
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 519.4
2004: 525.8
2005: 513.8
Brooklyn Center, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Burnsville
Population: 59,321
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 199.7
2004: 189.1
2005: 202.4
Burnsville, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Coon Rapids
Population: 62,207
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 259.1
2004: 265.7
2005: 279.6
Coon Rapids, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Eden Prarie
Population: 60,952
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 138.9
2004: 130.7
2005: 124.1
Eden Prairie, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Eagan
Population: 63,736
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 148.2
2004: 160.7
2005: 138.3
Eagan, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Minnetonka
Population: 49,928
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 155.7
2004: 136.0
2005: 141.0
Minnetonka, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Maple Grove
Population: 60,584
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 145.6
2004: 145.8
2005: 151.3
Maple Grove, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Plymouth
Population: 70,102
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 163.1
2004: 140.9
2005: 143.6
Plymouth, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

This list could go on.....

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by moving123456

It does not get a bad rap just because we know that black people live there.

It gets a bad rap for having a higher overall crime rate than the average Twin Cities suburb. Some also lump it together with Brooklyn Center which is even worse for crime because of the similar names, but Brooklyn Park is no Mayberry on its own. Look through the data pages of this site and try to find a Twin Cities suburb other than Brooklyn Center with a higher yearly average crime rate than Brooklyn Park. Here is the Minnesota page so you can get started.

Brooklyn Park is a little over what is considered a "National Average", but it is high for the Twin Cities suburbs.

As I posted earlier in this thread.....

Brooklyn Park
Population: 69,942
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 347.3
2004: 346.8
2005: 361.5
Brooklyn Park, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Brooklyn Center
Population: 27,371
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 519.4
2004: 525.8
2005: 513.8
Brooklyn Center, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Burnsville
Population: 59,321
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 199.7
2004: 189.1
2005: 202.4
Burnsville, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Coon Rapids
Population: 62,207
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 259.1
2004: 265.7
2005: 279.6
Coon Rapids, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Eden Prarie
Population: 60,952
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 138.9
2004: 130.7
2005: 124.1
Eden Prairie, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Eagan
Population: 63,736
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 148.2
2004: 160.7
2005: 138.3
Eagan, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Minnetonka
Population: 49,928
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 155.7
2004: 136.0
2005: 141.0
Minnetonka, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Maple Grove
Population: 60,584
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 145.6
2004: 145.8
2005: 151.3
Maple Grove, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

Plymouth
Population: 70,102
Crime Index (higher=more)
2003: 163.1
2004: 140.9
2005: 143.6
Plymouth, Minnesota (MN) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, news, sex offenders

This list could go on.....

Perhaps there is higher crime, but I guess it's just me that doesn't find Brooklyn Park that bad because I live in a more violent metro area(Atlanta).

[moving123456]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

Perhaps there is higher crime, but I guess it's just me that doesn't find Brooklyn Park that bad because I live in a more violent metro area(Atlanta).

This is true. Compared to much of the Atlanta area and many other metros around the country, the crime of Brooklyn Park is really not that bad at just over the national average. It is only really high when you compare it to the other Twin Cities suburbs, which overall have very low crime compared to other metro areas in the country.

I moved from one of the lower crime western suburbs of the Twin Cities to what was consider a "low crime" area of Charlotte and always thought that crime was still crazy high there.