Edina Cake Eater (Minnetonka, Brooklyn Center, Orono: big home, neighborhood, luxury)

[Slig]

Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider

[u]
HOWEVER, it should be noted....

++North Oaks is not on this list because it's population is approx 3,800, ++Dellwood's Population is just over 1,000,
++Chanhassen's population is 20,000,
++Shorewood's population is about 7,400, and...
++ Edina's population is only 4700.

So we are really comparing apples to oranges...

You're way off, in the 2000 census Edina's population was 47,425 and it has probably grown since then.

[Clifford63]

Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider

So we are really comparing apples to oranges...

It is difficult to break this type of information because most cities have some mixture of income levels. It also matters how you measure income too. Per capita, per household, at city level, county level, state level, etc. The smaller the unit, the easier it is to skew the numbers. For example, drop Glenn Taylor into a city of 400 and you get a high median income, but it may be very misleading on paper. MN as a state has higher meidan income than Illinois. Minneapolis Metro has higher median income than Chicago metro. When you get down to small units, it really indicates that certian areas of Chicago Metro have more higly concentrated wealth. Not really good or bad per se, just a more realistic way to look at how wealth is distributed.

Interesting cities to look at in MN. Deephaven, Sunfish Lake, Woodland, Birchwood Village, Minnetonka Beach, Grant, and Medina.

Edina was my back yard for many years, and I don't see anything but a lot of improvement in terms of remodels, knockdowns etc. No shortage of money and it is not erroding by any standard. It is probably true that other areas like cities listed in another state have evloved in a similar fashion but at a faster pace or with more uniformity. I would say that it is more accurate to say Edina is pretty much the same egg it always was, but other places have changed more substantially.

[Slig]

Originally Posted by Clifford63

It is difficult to break this type of information because most cities have some mixture of income levels. It also matters how you measure income too. Per capita, per household, at city level, county level, state level, etc. The smaller the unit, the easier it is to skew the numbers. For example, drop Glenn Taylor into a city of 400 and you get a high median income, but it may be very misleading on paper. MN as a state has higher meidan income than Illinois. Minneapolis Metro has higher median income than Chicago metro. When you get down to small units, it really indicates that certian areas of Chicago Metro have more higly concentrated wealth. Not really good or bad per se, just a more realistic way to look at how wealth is distributed.

I'm guessing your mixing up the words "median" with "mean." If Glenn Taylor moved into a town of 400 he would hardly affect the median at all but his presence would have a drastic effect on the mean granted the other residents have modest income figures.

[Clifford63]

Originally Posted by Slig

I'm guessing your mixing up the words "median" with "mean." If Glenn Taylor moved into a town of 400 he would hardly affect the median at all but his presence would have a drastic effect on the mean granted the other residents have modest income figures.

Yes I did mix that up. Thanks for the clarification. Good illistration that median and mean can be very different when you are looking at small populations.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider

HOWEVER, it should be noted....

++North Oaks is not on this list because it's population is approx 3,800, ++Dellwood's Population is just over 1,000,
++Chanhassen's population is 20,000,
++Shorewood's population is about 7,400, and...
++ Edina's population is only 4700.

Is that a typo? According to City-Data, the population of Edina, MN in July 2007 was 45,912.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Edina-Minnesota.html

[scrapperoni]

Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider

++ Edina's population is only 4700.

Thanks for pointing out all the numbers. It's interesting to see the comparison. I have to correct this little one, though, if you don't mind.

Edina population is 47,000 not 4700

EDIT: and after posting this I realized I missed a whole page of this thread. My bad

[StPaulEastSider]

Originally Posted by Slig

You're way off, in the 2000 census Edina's population was 47,425 and it has probably grown since then.

Correct... I was roughly rounding off the number and left off a ZERO. [I pulled the numbers from Wikipedia rather than c-d]

I wouldn't necessarily assume Edina's population has grown all that much. They have not had room for new developments in ages and baby boomers, and I believe baby boomers still make up a large portion of Edina's population, and of course they would be losing household members in the last decade, as their kids move up and out. It would depend on how many retired households sold their homes to younger families in the past decade.

This^ is just me trying to logically trying to think through the question of whether or not Edina's population may have grown in the past decade.

Now Shakopee... Methinks THAT's a population which has grown, significantly, in the past decade.

[kuan]

I hadn't even heard of Dellwood MN before today.

[Clifford63]

Originally Posted by kuan

I hadn't even heard of Dellwood MN before today.

Pretty low key and small. East shore of White Bear Lake.

[knke0204]

north oaks isnt that great. just a bunch of large professional homes that are in woods surrounding a few lakes and ponds. Mosquito heaven... There are neighborhoods in the Chicago burbs that make Edina look like Brooklyn Center