More pit bull attacks (Minneapolis, Aurora: apartment, home, safe)

[robfdavis1971]

Originally Posted by TimtheGuy

I saw there were 2 more pit bull attacks in the metro in the last week. Should these breeds be allowed in any city's limits? I would have to say NO! They have too much natural disposition to attack IMO.

Both of these attacks involved dogs that all ready had a "record" of biting people and had the label of "dangerous animal". How does slapping this label on an animal justify the owner being able to keep it??? It obviously does not work.

That is a myth - pit bulls are not naturally disposed to attack. They are taught and their natural desire to obey their master kicks in. if they are taught to be good they are good, if they are taught to be bad they are bad.....once again - the owner.

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[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by Bunky39

i just have 1 question. what happened just before the dog attacked?
just 1 question only 1.
stephen s
san diego ca

did not get the answer i was hoping to get so i will tell you about Rebel.
as a kid, i lived in chicago which is a pretty rough place got beatup a lot as a kid really bad sometimes 2 or 3 guys several attempts were made to also rape me.
dad got me a boxer, not quiet a pit bull but could fight and bite pretty good.
that was the end of the beatings. my dog had a history of biting muggers and rapists. can you imagine the shame my dad and i should have felt for harboring an animal that had bitten innocent rapists and muggers going about their normal business of raping and mugging. what kind of people would keep such dangerous animals among the populous.
i think such animals should be destroyed and their owners punished.
you will be pleased to hear, actually somebody did poison my dog. but thank you so much for your article that helped me to better understand that i must make a greater effort to respect the rights of others and be more understanding.

stephen s
san diego ca

[robfdavis1971]

Originally Posted by Bunky39

did not get the answer i was hoping to get so i will tell you about Rebel.
as a kid, i lived in chicago which is a pretty rough place got beatup a lot as a kid really bad sometimes 2 or 3 guys several attempts were made to also rape me.
dad got me a boxer, not quiet a pit bull but could fight and bite pretty good.
that was the end of the beatings. my dog had a history of biting muggers and rapists. can you imagine the shame my dad and i should have felt for harboring an animal that had bitten innocent rapists and muggers going about their normal business of raping and mugging. what kind of people would keep such dangerous animals among the populous.
i think such animals should be destroyed and their owners punished.
you will be pleased to hear, actually somebody did poison my dog. but thank you so much for your article that helped me to better understand that i must make a greater effort to respect the rights of others and be more understanding.

stephen s
san diego ca

I'm so glad you had a good dog to protect you. I'm sorry he was poisoned. I had a black lab that was run over by dope dealers because he was alerting us at night to their activity in the neighborhood.....

God bless you

Robert

[robfdavis1971]

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[TimtheGuy]

Originally Posted by Bunky39

i just have 1 question. what happened just before the dog attacked?
just 1 question only 1.
stephen s
san diego ca

I have no idea, but there was just ANOTHER attack here and the OWNER'S 7 year old child is dead!

At least they are charging the father with negligent homocide or something like that.

Oh, and a Hennepin County Sherrif had to kill a pit bull last week that was attacking him.

[kuan]

Originally Posted by TimtheGuy

I have no idea, but there was just ANOTHER attack here and the OWNER'S 7 year old child is dead!

Where? Can you provide a link?

[TimtheGuy]

Originally Posted by kuan

Where? Can you provide a link?

Pit bull kills 7-year-old Minneapolis boy at home

[kuan]

Originally Posted by TimtheGuy

Pit bull kills 7-year-old Minneapolis boy at home

Oh that! Yes I read that in the paper.

[citybythebay]

Pit bull kills 7-year-old Minneapolis boy at home

Taken from the text:

Police have yet to determine what caused the dog to turn on one of its owners.

"There needs to be a detailed investigation to get the facts of what happened here before we jump to conclusions that it's possibly a breed deal," said Tom Deegan, manager of Animal Care & Control for Minneapolis. "They need to have some behaviorists and experts look at what happened."

Let's see...for starters:

(in the) family's basement, where their full-grown male pit bull was chained.

The dog was chained in the basement!? Who in the hell chains their dog in a basement??? I would assume someone who lacks the knowledge of how to care for a dog and has the dog for other reasons than a companion.

The boy's grandfather, Robert Lee King Jr. of Minneapolis, said he arrived at the family's two-story house in the Folwell neighborhood after getting a hysterical call on his cell phone from the boy's aunt. The grandfather got there just as Zachary was being loaded into an ambulance.

Robert King said the male pit bull, whose name was Face, was most often kept in the basement.

"I didn't trust that dog," he said, adding that the dog acted quite aggressively toward others and was a big reason he didn't often visit the home.

These people were well aware that the dog was aggressive. But yet still kept the dog chained up in the basement away from social contact it appears.
Good move... WHY did they even have the dog??? **Unbelievable**

The boy's family also has a female pit bull that family members and neighbors said seemed more friendly and was allowed to move around the house. The pit bulls recently had a litter of five puppies that Zachary and his sisters liked to play with outside

Oh brother!!!! The female was "allowed" to move around the house. They were obviously keeping the male locked away for a reason which they had full knowledge of the reason why!
Not only that but it appears they were breeding the dogs. Total morons. Perfect example of people who should NOT own any breed of dog.

Even before Thursday's attack, a state legislator touched off debate with his vow to try to outlaw in Minnesota five breeds of dogs, including pit bulls.

Instead of attacking breeds of dogs why don't they go after the uneducated numb skulls that should not even own a dog. Period!
Until that happens pathetic stories like this will be around giving a bad name to those of us who are responsible dog owners!!

[PitBullMommie1206]

Originally Posted by TimtheGuy

I saw there were 2 more pit bull attacks in the metro in the last week. Should these breeds be allowed in any city's limits? I would have to say NO! They have too much natural disposition to attack IMO.

Both of these attacks involved dogs that all ready had a "record" of biting people and had the label of "dangerous animal". How does slapping this label on an animal justify the owner being able to keep it??? It obviously does not work.

You obviously don't know anything truthful about these dogs. Take a second and educate yourself. Here is some of what this website says about the APBTs temperament.. American Pit Bull Terrier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When treated well, APBTs typically have sunny personalities. They are very sweet, curious, intelligent, and clownish. They are noted for their outgoing, affectionate, eager-to-please disposition and their fondness for people. They adore attention, often relishing the company of humans and are notorious for their loyalty to their masters, even giving their lives for them... Despite the stereotype, the average, sound-minded APBT is not a threat where children are concerned... APBTs were never bred for human aggression or guarding behavior; generally they only will attack if they perceive an immediate threat to their masters or families rather than seeing every person as an intruder upon their territory. They were originally bred against human aggression because in the pit fighting days the handlers had to be able to handle their dogs as well as treat their wounds, and if necessary, quickly pull the dog out of a fight for various reasons. Any dog that did show the slightest sign of human aggression in that day was 'culled', and therefore, not allowed to carry on its bloodline. For that reason stable examples of the breed are generally not suitable as guard dogs. It is important that APBTs who display any sign of human aggression are not bred, in order to preserve the stable and friendly nature of the breed, and equally important that man aggressive dogs are never kept."

APBTs are not people-haters or people-eaters! Their natural aggressive tendencies are towards other animals, not humans! However, if these dogs are properly trained and socialized they should not even be aggressive with them! The APBT is a good natured, amusing, extremely loyal and affectionate family pet, which is good with children and adults! "Pit bulls" are no more inherently dangerous to people than other dog breeds. People often assume that "pit bulls" are human aggressive because they were bred to fight animals. This is simply not true! If that were the case then Irish Wolfhounds, Anatolian Shepard's, Great Pyrenees, etc should be considered dangerous to humans as well. For hundreds of years "pit bulls" were bred to fight dogs, they were never bred for human aggression! Human "aggressive" dogs were undesirable as these dogs required extensive handling prior to and during their fights AND most of these dogs were also family pets so no human aggression was ever tolerated. Dogs that exhibited human aggression were typically culled, meaning that only human friendly lines were perpetuated and desired.

APBTs are one of the most stable, people-friendly breeds in existence, and unlike most of the crap you hear in the media, that's a fact! In temperament testing the APBT tests better than many popular family breeds such as Goldens and Beagles! They are the perfect breed to deal with the rough and tumble play a child can dish out! APBTs are even known as nanny dogs for their love and dependability with children! A naturally aggressive breed would not be suitable for service work, right? Well, APBTs are currently used and suitable for all types of service work including drug detection, emergency rescue, service and therapy work, military service, and much more. The APBT is additionally one of the most intelligent and easy to train breed of dogs. The trainer of the show dog Lassie has even remarked on how the APBT is his choice of breed for training.