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Old 04-20-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Of course long term the dome is not a viable option. But we should call their bluff as to "this has to happen now...this year...".
they've/you've/we've been doing that for 10 years and what has it gotten you in terms of a better deal? You think the NFL will now want to demonstrate to the other future cities that just play hard-ball with 'em and they'll cave and build the stadium for you? No way will the Vikings wait beyong the next Feb 15th deadline without petitioning for the move for 2013 and they of course would be granted that permission. Those ******* at the capitol are selling you out right now. The only question will be will the league make us change the state name to something that's more marketable for them.

Roger Goodell to Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton, leaders -- act this year on stadium - ESPN


Rosen said the visit "served us a reality check." She later added, "We cannot wait until next year."

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"Whether the Vikings get sold and somebody's going to move them or move, they didn't address that, and no one knows," Dayton said. "What it is going to create is a lot of uncertainty, and essentially Minnesota's going to be backing the Vikings and the league into a corner and giving them no way out except to take the back door out."

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"This is a two-minute drill and things will have to be moving a bit more quickly," said Republican House Speaker Kurt Zellers, who declined to guarantee an up-or-down vote this year.

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Democratic Rep. Mary Murphy, a 35-year Capitol veteran, said she is undecided on the Vikings stadium and doesn't anticipate taking a side until she sees the final bill. But Murphy said she senses sentiment is shifting in favor of the Vikings and the visibility campaign by the NFL could play a part as the session wanes. More calls and emails are coming in, too.
"We're going into the final weeks. People are going to be more vocal as we're out and about" back home, Murphy said. "I just have a feeling it's shifting for the stadium. People's attitudes are."
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The arrogance of the NFL is unbelievable. They think they think they can come here dictate terms to the elected government of the state.

Sports leagues essentially operate as unregulated cartels. They create artificial scaricity for their product so that they can extort subsidies from local governments. The federal government needs to regulate them in the same manner state governments regulate public utilities. It is the only way to prevent them from abusing their position.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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The arrogance of the NFL is unbelievable. They think they think they can come here dictate terms to the elected government of the state.
evidently they can...

Vikings stadium bill revived by Minnesota Senate panel's 8-6 vote - TwinCities.com
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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When the revolution comes the NFL owners will be the first ones with their backs against the wall.

We will have people's football.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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The legislature should have taking the White Earth deal. $400m up front, an est.$200m annually, and access to an Indian Casino's books!
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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The legislature should have taking the White Earth deal. $400m up front, an est.$200m annually, and access to an Indian Casino's books!
can't do that because the DFL is protecting the metro tribes' gaming monopoly in exchange for their campaign "support"
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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can't do that because the DFL is protecting the metro tribes' gaming monopoly in exchange for their campaign "support"
Agreed. But Republicans control the legislature and the White Earth proposal didn't see the light of day.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Agreed. But Republicans control the legislature and the White Earth proposal didn't see the light of day.
there's still plenty of Republicans that are there to protect us from gambling evils along with their other god-fearing social agendas
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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The White Earth proposal is dead in the water, which I agree is unfortunate. The NFL has said they don't want that close an association with gambling. I'd have to believe there would be a Las Vegas team by now if that weren't the case.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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The White Earth proposal is dead in the water, which I agree is unfortunate. The NFL has said they don't want that close an association with gambling. I'd have to believe there would be a Las Vegas team by now if that weren't the case.
While there is some concern that one of the mechanisms of the state's funding that would use tip-boards would not pass a federal gambling restriction, it's definitely not the NFL that is resisting this. The NFL did state that they weren't too keen on the idea of a casino being physically attached to the Arden Hills Stadium when that idea was first floated last December, but even that scenario wasn't met with a great deal of hand-wringing on their part.

The NFL is rightly concerned about the proliferation on gambling on NFL games but has recently begun to allow Casino advertising at their stadium facilities (hardly sending a totally disapproving message)...

NFL allowing limited casino ads

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48 states raking in gambling proceeds....

Bets can be placed in nearly 900 casinos – 455 privately run in 11 states, 406 on Indian reservations in 29 states and 29 racetrack casinos – known as racinos -- in 11 states. And at least nine states (Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Ohio and Texas) are considering opening their doors to casino or racetrack gambling.

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Jan. 15: $15 billion stakes ride on epic gambling fight | StarTribune.com

Gambling at Minnesota's 18 Indian casinos totals an estimated $15 billion a year and returns $600 million to the casinos.
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