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Old 01-03-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Interesting. Department of Public Safety published preliminary figures showing that Hennepin County had about 8 1/2 percent of the statewide traffic fatalities. But Hennepin County has nearly 22 percent of the population. Baffles me. How can our share be so MUCH below our share of the population? Who does account for the 91 1/2 percent? Some parts of the state must be having a disproportional part of traffic fatalities.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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Considering a large portion of Hennepin County is made up of residential streets with 30 mph or lower speed limits, it's not surprising. I would venture a guess that you will see places around Moorhead or similar with large interstates and lots of blowing snow with higher fatality rates even if the population is low, especially when the sample size is relatively small for the total population. One accident that claims say 5 lives, might be 50% higher in itself then all of the fatalities in a county elsewhere. I'm sure Lyon County had the highest, or near the highest, rate back when that bus accident happened.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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That description fits a lot of other places like Ramsey County. And I've seen data that said a large percentage of fatalities occur within a short distance from home. Which means you'd expect a lot more Hennepin County residents being killed right here. As for bus passengers, I'm pretty certain their survival rate is WAY above that of individual motorists. You HEAR about it when it occurs, but car accidents are so routine, the media doesn't even scratch the surface in reporting those. Maybe there are more vehicles that don't handle in the outlying areas. I've also heard that DWI fatalities rise as you get farther from the metropolitan area.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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2 Brothers Among 4 Students Dead in Minnesota School Bus Crash | Fox News

specifically talking about this accident....

How about a link to the data you are talking about
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:18 PM
 
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:58 PM
 
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Alot of dumb drivers out who dont deserve a license.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Hennepin had the most fatalities out of all the counties in MN by a pretty large number when you have a sample size of 378. On average there were 4 fatalities/county statewide. Hennepin had 32, so 8 times the state average but only has 1/5th of the state's population so they have 3 times as many accidents on average based on population...
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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Hennepin had the most fatalities out of all the counties in MN by a pretty large number when you have a sample size of 378. On average there were 4 fatalities/county statewide. Hennepin had 32, so 8 times the state average but only has 1/5th of the state's population so they have 3 times as many accidents on average based on population...
Your math doesn't gibe with my original. 20 percent of the population, 8 percent of the fatalities. Can't be both ways. If you don't believe me divide 378 into 32 and the state population(5 million plus)into the state population(1 million plus) There DEFINITELY is a differential that favors Hennepin County.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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Your math doesn't gibe with my original. 20 percent of the population, 8 percent of the fatalities. Can't be both ways. If you don't believe me divide 378 into 32 and the state population(5 million plus)into the state population(1 million plus) There DEFINITELY is a differential that favors Hennepin County.
That is the point-YOUR math doesn't "gibe" because you didn't figure your percentages by average across all counties across the state. Some counties had no fatalities which skewes your numbers, nor did you account for the county size anywhere. Some counties have 0% of the fatalities yet they have a percentage of the population so therefore, using your logic, they have a percentage MUCH below their population. So, on average those counties have no fatalities and Minneapolis would then have 32 times more fatalities then their counties would.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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Of course, I don't. I'm saying, again, 20 percent of the population, 8 percent of the fatalities. The "average across all counties" doesn't really seem like it tells me anything. You're doing funny math. Arguing against that is a waste of time.
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