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07-30-2008, 09:31 AM
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Urban sprawl is a problem, but there are some very good reason for living in the suburbs. Access to recreation is one of them, kids and schools is another. I, for one, would like to see the suburbs become a little more urban and achieve at least a dense enough population where local business can thrive.
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07-30-2008, 07:15 PM
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I believe this relates to a public policy issue that few, if any, politicians will touch with a ten-foot pole: population growth.
How many more millions of people do we want in this country? No one really even knows how many are here illegally. I, for one, believe the numbers of those here illegally are drastically underestimated.
Wouldn't it make sense for us as a nation to quantify an optimum population cap, rather than continue letting untold millions more in?
Many parents sensibly decide on an optimum number of children to bring into the world, given their individual circumstances.
If our population and immigration (illegal especially) trends continue, I believe this country will be unrecognizable within a matter of years.
We will need more oil, more power plants, more transmission lines, see much more traffic (and see many more poor air quality days) etc., and open space will be a fond memory.
It seems that most of the mainstream conservation groups are strangely silent about this topic. Perhaps they are actually more concerned with political correctness.
How many millions more do we want?
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07-30-2008, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Slig
that's cool....sounds like you live in Urban Sprawlandia though which isn't so cool.
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Nope. I live in the Roseville school district, it's nowhere near Urban Sprawlandia. 
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07-31-2008, 09:09 AM
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Nope. I live in the Roseville school district, it's nowhere near Urban Sprawlandia. 
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Wow, Roseville area bussing is that bad? Although it doesn't surprise me. Public transportation outside of the first ring suburbs is plain awful. It's one of the main reasons I live in the city.
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07-31-2008, 11:40 AM
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The "Air Pollution Advisory" was cancelled yesterday.
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07-31-2008, 12:09 PM
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The "Air Pollution Advisory" was cancelled yesterday.
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I saw that, finally some good news.....by the way, it was me biking to work 11 days in the month of July that single-handedly revoked the advisory. I rule.
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07-31-2008, 12:22 PM
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that's cool....sounds like you live in Urban Sprawlandia though which isn't so cool.
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That's a matter of opinon. 
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07-31-2008, 02:48 PM
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I saw that, finally some good news.....by the way, it was me biking to work 11 days in the month of July that single-handedly revoked the advisory. I rule.
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Be thankful you can do that up there, BTW. I didn't fully appreciate the options that were available to me in the Twin Cities (in terms of walking, bike paths, and bikeable routes in general) until I moved to Atlanta, land of grass shoulders and an almost complete lack of sidewalks.
Biking is a dangerous undertaking here...
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08-01-2008, 06:35 AM
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That's why Minneapolis is the 2nd most bike friendly city in the country behind Portland.
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