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IIt's a Celtic culture, and as my Decorator says, "Celtic people use words to amuse and manipulate, rather than to instruct or communicate." Wish he'd told be that twenty years ago. Would have saved me a lot of wondering.
I fail to see much Celtic about Mississippi. The Celtic peoples are the native Catholic Irish, the Highland "Irish" Scots, the Welsh and the Bretons (some would count the Cornish and Spanish Galicians).
I don't think those peoples settled the south in great numbers or had near the influence on southern ways as the English, Scotch-Irish and Germans. Which are of course Germanic rather than Celtic peoples.
Hello kindred spirit! So nice to hear a little honesty coming out of The Mealymouth State.
I could take you to task for wanting Gucci, which is...so...well...Gina Gambaro from Ugly Betty. And I would point out that gambling is sleazy everywhere...even in Monte Carlo. But you're young, and will learn those things quickly enough.
So both Abercrombie stores at the mall are closed? Pity. The merch is a bit downmarket for my DH and sons, who prefer sportswear from Trillion, Bijan, Battaglia, or Wilkes Bashford; but I loved to buy flip flops there...any excuse to hear new music, in a state where the number one hit (for the past thirty-odd years) has been Bad, Bad LeRoy Brown. And it was one of the few small shops in town where some bitter divorcee from Ole Miss wasn't looking down her nose at you (because she can just tell that you didn't go to Ole Miss, and if you did, you obviously didn't 'go Greek'...so how dare a subhuman like you come up into her shop and try to buy stationery...or Calphalon...or a Rosemary Topiary Tree...how dare you?).
So I, too, shopped out-of-town. The salespeople were less than gracious to me around Jackson. And it was worse for my husband. Men who are not pink-skinned, gingertawny-haired, hazel-eyed and seriously overweight (and escorted by a female) are viewed with alarm, in Central Mississippi stores. Menfolk aren't really supposed to shop, in Mississippi. They're supposed to stand there, looking bored and awkward, while their shrill wives screech things like "Oh iddn' thaeeuss kyeeeeeeeeeeeeeewt?" and "But I don't waaaaaaawnt eeeyut weeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuth thu pooch-out!" So, we'd end up spending weekends in Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, where the boutique owners were kind and lovely, or driving a bit farther, to One Canal Place, in New Orleans. There's a Saks Fifth Avenue there, and a nice, safe, shady parking tower for your car. Besides Saks, what does a person really need? And don't they have Gucci?
I can't say anything specific, because I'd either get sued or snuffed for leaking too much. But you definitely chose the right town in the Metro to inhabit, because a whole array....a veritable cavalcade of choice shops seem to be coming your way. Save your money, kid, because whole boatloads of the merch you crave will be available faster than you can say "How much would it cost to move all my stuff to West Hollywood?".
Why is Mississippi so Horrible? Believe it or not, that was once a great state. Before the Civil War, Mississippi and New York were the rich states: the happening places. Natchez, if I remember correctly, was the richest town in America, or something like that. Mississippi's population, then, was mostly Norse Protestant. There were Native Americans like me, too. And there were the blacks. Everybody got along far better than the current agenda-based drivel they call 'History' would have you believe.
But then there was an influx of Non-Norse people from one of the British Isles. The British were intent upon exterminating them through attrition: and I can't blame the British. These people had genetics from Eastern Europe, and their intelligence was (and is) far lower than that of any other group in Northwest Europe. These people were gorgeous, but also were known as big, loud, drunken, rioting bullies. They hated Indians. They hated Blacks. They hated Aristocrats. They hated Jews. They made fun of everybody who was not like them: particularly refined people and educated people. They loved to murder people in public (think lynch mobs...in the 'Old Country' they contented themselves with burning 'Witches', while their genetic kin in Eastern Europe periodically rise up and throw 'Pogroms', to kill the Jews), and to go to big churches and sing really, really, really loud(there's a paragraph about that in 'O Ye **** & Juleps'). And, like most low-IQ groups, their Sexual Dimorphism was extreme, and the men were absolutely obsessed with 'Manhood' (hence the 'barbaric Redneck' behaviors you reference). There are old written accounts of their arrival, and of their abuse of Old Stock Mississippians.
To make things worse, the whole Religion of Sports was taking over American schools at about that time, and these big, loud, strapping bullies were thus empowered to absolutely terrorize the less muscular and more studious Norse and Hebrew students.
These new arrivals 'encouraged' Mississippi's Blacks to seek opportunities in the North. Plantation owners were thus obliged to seek replacements for Blacks. They turned to a large island in the Mediterranean, whose population had long been virtually enslaved. These people were tricked into immigrating to America. The intent of the landowners was to keep them as virtual Serfs, as they had been in the Old Country. This seemed only natural, as they were muscular, and mostly not very bright. Unfortunately, some of them (like my 'Real Daddy') were extremely bright, and were adept at maintaining a parallel power structure, which, until defeated by The Irish Mob, then The Russian Mob, briefly came to control America's Government (the Nixon Administration). Moreover, their lack of intelligence in the Old Country turned out to be partly derived from centuries of near-starvation of the Peasantry in that land. In America, they attained IQs in the 'normal' range. Anyway, they did not remain agricultural serfs in Mississippi for long. They tended to intermarry with the 'big gorgeous bully' group. The resulting hybrids can be found all over the state, and may be the dominant population on the Gulf Coast.
Other efforts to import from distant lands, a new underclass to work the fields, also backfired. Every group turned out to be trouble-makers who 'took over' and treated Old Stock Mississippians like dirt (most Old Stock Mississippians were decent small farmers, who minded their own business and never harmed a soul...and hardly deserved the backwash from the 'Elites' search for cheap labor). But there was a bright side, and that was the Chinese. Everybody (except the big, beautiful brawling bullies) loves Mississippi's Old Chinese families. That was good for me, since I look more Chinese than Indian. Unfortunately, Mississippi's Old Chinese Families have mostly moved to better states with more to offer smart people.
Anyway, the newly-arrived strapping bullies created a climate of fear and repression (remember the big, loud churches...), and so encouraged the Aristocrats, the scholarly, the Jews, 'Effeminate' males....basically anyone refined and not inclined to fisticuffs....to move to better places, where these rufous-headed ruffians and their big, loud churches, did not dominate. Thus was born the Mississippi Brain Drain. My extended family fled the state, starting in 1959, and ending with me, just last year. They wonder what took me so long. Well, I loved the place and the plants that grew there...and the Bluebirds that drifted down into our walled garden...just not the people(well..okay...and I was making boatloads of money, and wasn't sure it would be as easy elsewhere, among smarter people).
But back to Jackson stores. All the merch around Jackson is what Saks and Neimans didn't want. The department stores sell the most insipid, watered-down junk imaginable. If they stuck to basics, and sold really good, classic basics (like maybe really, definitively good Men's Khakis), that would be great. But they don't. Everything is quasi-designer (in a supposedly 'safe' way), and essentially unusable, because the stuff looks like garbage, once you put it on. You'd think the best department stores in town would balk at any seam that puckered or did not lay flat...any fabric with a 'bad hand'...any color that lacked those subtle dimensions that good colors have.... How hard is it to relay to the Designers and their Jobbers that they need to turn out a desirable product?
The owners of the little shops all get their gimmicky junk from Mawrkeeeeeeeyit eeeeeyiun Daaaaayuhlueuissssssssss...which they consider to be the center of the Universe.
If I never see another tacky day-glo neo-Pucci wierd idea of a 'Sun Dress', it will be a blessing. Gimmicky, gimmicky, gimmicky....
But back to gambling: I know a lady who, between marriages, went to Monte Carlo. She was rich and beautiful and living her dream, floating through the beautiful rooms in some grand Casino in a lovely gown...even got to go into the 'high-stakes' room, where princes and potentates were doing the bigtime stuff. So there she was, on the arm of a Russian Prince (yes, they do keep track of those titles), experiencing the most elite experience that the World of Gambling could possibly offer. It took her about fifteen minutes to realize that Gertrude Stein's saying was once again true: When you get there, there's no there there."Just a bunch of scum with money. Been there, done that. No need to ever do it again."
Why is MS so horrible. It so horrible because residents believe what everyone else says about the state and gives it credence in posts like these. Posts like these are not worth responding to. Ignore the GrandViewGloria's and the others, like Retard Randy with his "Why I hate MS" posts...they are not worth the time or effort, besides, you need to have a PHD to understand half of what GrandView says...and besides, were too dumb to understand anyway...so pay them no mind...because they are mindless. Not that it matters to anyone, but I refuse to be caught up in one more negative post on MS, and will only respond to positive ones. To criticize and talk about what you dislike is one thing, but to continuely go out of your way just to slam a place is uncalled for. I wonder what kind of illiterate monsters these people had for parents...didnt anyone ever tell them if you have nothing nice to say...don't say anything at all, or "to each his own". UNDERSTAND ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY, THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WILL NEVER GIVE MS A BREAK FOR ITS PAST, OR EVEN ITS PRESENT. IT WILL NEVER REPORT/RECOGNIZE ANYTHING POSITIVE ON MS OR UNDERSTAND THIS STATES UNIQUE CULTURE...EVER!! I WONDER IF THE REST OF THE WORLD STILL CHASTIZES GERMANY FOR THE HOLOCAUST AS MUCH AS MS IS SCORNED FOR ITS PAST?? TO ALL MS BASHERS, YOU MAY ALL GO STRAIGHT TO HELL I AM SICK TO DEATH OF HEARING FROM YOU!!
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But then there was an influx of Non-Norse people from one of the British Isles. The British were intent upon exterminating them through attrition: and I can't blame the British. These people had genetics from Eastern Europe, and their intelligence was (and is) far lower than that of any other group in Northwest Europe. These people were gorgeous, but also were known as big, loud, drunken, rioting bullies. and never harmed a soul...and hardly deserved the backwash from the 'Elites' search for cheap labor). But there was a bright side, and that was the Chinese. Everybody (except the big, beautiful brawling bullies) loves Mississippi's Old Chinese families. Anyway, the newly-arrived strapping bullies created a climate of fear and repression (remember the big, loud churches...), and so encouraged the Aristocrats, the scholarly, the Jews, 'Effeminate' males....basically anyone refined and not inclined to fisticuffs....to move to better places, where these rufous-headed ruffians and their big, loud churches, did not dominate.
Huh ??? I don't understand. Are you talking about Irish people ?? Since when do Irish people have genetics from Eastern Europe ??? Since when do they worship loudly ? Most Irish are Roman Catholic. You say their intelligence was and is far lower than any other in Northwest Europe ?? Do you have evidence to back that up ??
Although I'm a Yankee (born in New York, living in Philly) I grew up in the South and have an appreciation and an affinity for the South. My Dad was a traveling salesman and Mississippi was part of his territory (also Alabama, Georgia, the Carolinas, and Tennessee).
Now Mississippi is a beautiful place - lovely scenery, friendly hospitable people ... not horrible at all. It has a rich history. I think a lot of Northerners imagine it is a very racist place, but my perception is that it is not (nowadays at least). However it seems to be a very "Christian" state and if there is hatred it's against Jews, not Blacks. The other group that is despised are Gays. Just an observation, an opinion, please tell me if I'm wrong.
The main problem I detect with Mississippi is that in earned income it comes in absolutely the last place in all the 50 states ... it has a reputation for being a "poor" state. Along with that, it is considered the lowest in quality of a public school education - that test scores of students putting it at the lowest or near the lowest in the whole country. That is something not to be proud of. One more thing: it's said that obesity is very high or the highest in the US.
I think if these problems can be effectively dealt with Mississippi will blossom like a beautiful magnolia flower. Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Why is MS so horrible. It so horrible .....THE COUNTRY WILL NEVER GIVE MS A BREAK FOR ITS PAST, OR EVEN ITS PRESENT.!!
I don't think the original post or myself criticized MS about acts from 40+ years ago. The original post specifically complained about how it is now, while my complaints are about now and the recent few years that show the state is the worst in the union.
Now if you think that MS shouldn't be judged on it's present condition or the direction it has gone in the last 5-10 years than that gives people a real insight to MS culture.
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....UNDERSTAND THIS STATES UNIQUE CULTURE...EVER!!
I believe my posts are about this state's "unique culture" and how worthless the culture really is. I understand the culture quite well, it's all based of low education, short term plnning and pseudo-religion. You can argue that my statements aren't true, but you'll never have the facts to back it up.
I believe at one time MS might have been a state with good values. The reputation is there, but the current citizens have been living off another generations reputation for quite a while doing whatever they want.
I don't think the original post or myself criticized MS about acts from 40+ years ago. The original post specifically complained about how it is now, while my complaints are about now and the recent few years that show the state is the worst in the union.
Now if you think that MS shouldn't be judged on it's present condition or the direction it has gone in the last 5-10 years than that gives people a real insight to MS culture.
I believe my posts are about this state's "unique culture" and how worthless the culture really is. I understand the culture quite well, it's all based of low education, short term plnning and pseudo-religion. You can argue that my statements aren't true, but you'll never have the facts to back it up.
I believe at one time MS might have been a state with good values. The reputation is there, but the current citizens have been living off another generations reputation for quite a while doing whatever they want.
The fact is, is that you refuse other people's positive experiences of Mississippi, then spend a day (sometimes more) calling all the residents of Mississippi (about 3 Million people) assorted names with a VERY snarky nature and painting them under a very broad brush only under the fact you have lived less than a year in one city. You won't even accept a post that has had at least something positive about Mississippi (my posts), from someone who spent some time there. And that time there was spent in two cities, one of them has big issues itself (Vicksburg), the other a very quaint and beautiful town that looked like you stepped into a simpler time (Natchez). And I intend to come back to see the rest of the state next time around as well.
Whether you like it or not, Mississippi/The South has been around just as long as there has been of USA (the South, in particular as a culture has been around for at least 150 years before the Revolution). It's culture is unique, no matter how many trollish and trolling times you call it "worthless", well pal it has worth to me!
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