04-08-2011, 09:53 AM
Location: Pearl, MS
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Read this article
Idaho looking up at (gulp) Mississippi
What do you think? Unfair? Valid points?
I for one, believe it is a little unfair how this man portrays our state. I mean, Idaho? C'mon...
I had no idea Idaho was threatened by lil' ole Mississippi. The stupidity of this author amazes me.
Idaho?? Really???
04-08-2011, 01:57 PM
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Well, let's start with that cookbook. Surely, this is a humor article out of Idaho....at least in part. But just in case the Writer or his Readers missed that; Crayfish, Rabbit, and Dove are perfectly legitimate ingredients. You can order them, I'm sure, in very fine restaurants (as a longtime Vegetarian, I'm fairly oblivious to what's on menus) Some of the other recipes, particularly the Possum, were inserted as humor, of course. If, however, the author does not grasp the humor in the cookbook, then I really don't think he should be running around loose without supervision.
More distressing to me, was a pamphlet from the Mississippi Department of Somethingorother , that was handed to me, once, when I bought a whole flat of Blueberries (In season, I have a box of berries with a diced Bananna and Soymilk, for Breakfast) . The pamphlet was showing people how to use Blueberries (like they were something alien and threatening) . All the recipes were loaded with heavy Dairy Products, and mountains of Sugar...or Pork Sausage. In not one recipe were Blueberries the main ingredient. And I don't remember any salads, or other ways of eating them raw. What a pity. A miraculously health-giving food (and a delicious one) , and the Department of Whatever is treating that food as if it has Cooties.
I'm curious about how having more people who check their Blood Pressure is a good thing. Wouldn't that indicate having more people with health issues? The article is rather inept to me: but does seem to look at the subjects under discussion, awkwardly, from both sides.
And spending more per student is generally a symptom of having dumb students, at whom 'educators' are desperately throwing money. Idaho probably has smarter kids, on whom money does not need to be lavished. I mean, during WWII, Poles and Jews managed to educate their children quite well...in secret...with ZERO Government money being spent on them: so Expenditure Per Pupil does not really count for much at all. BTW, I'd imagine that a far higher percentage of Idahoans take the SAT than do Mississippians. If you don't take the thing, then you can't do badly on it.
Mississippi has had a huge permanent (and permanently ineducable) underclass, for well over a century. Idaho is on the verge of being flooded with something similar. Mississippi has the heat and humidity. Idaho has the cold. Which is better is entirely subjective. Mississippi's problems are its low average IQ, and its long, hot summers. Neither will ever get any better. In the meantime, with the importation of low-IQ people, Idaho's problems (as with the rest of America) will get progressively worse.
The real news is that the rest of America is starting to be as wretched as Mississippi. Low IQ is the root of Mississippi's problems, and Low IQ is spreading like wildfire, these days. California, once the closest thing to Heaven on Earth , is on the verge of becoming worse than Mississippi .
In the meantime, I'd suggest calming down on a nice big Mississippi screened porch, over a Hearts of Lettuce Salad , heaped with Homemade Mayo, Steamed Crawfish, Marinated Asparagus, and Toasted Pecans. With a big glass of Iced Jasmine Tea...just listening to the Mockingbirds up in the Cherokee Roses.
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04-08-2011, 02:42 PM
Location: NE Mississippi
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Want to see some blank expressions?
Just announce to your kids that they'll be going to Idaho for vacation this year.
04-09-2011, 09:54 PM
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Want to see some blank expressions?
Just announce to your kids that they'll be going to Idaho for vacation this year.
That's kind of the same attitude that the Idaho writer has, isn't it? Idaho is all snow---
Mississippi has something to prove because it does have a lot of provincialism, some pretty bad dietary habits among some, hillbilly ways, and not a lot of positive PR--but it also has come a long way and has much to offer--so rather than being defensive just work to get that message out. The sooner Ms owns up to its faults the faster it can move on up in the rankings in various categories. That alone will change perceptions.
04-10-2011, 08:37 AM
Location: NE Mississippi
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That's kind of the same attitude that the Idaho writer has, isn't it? Idaho is all snow---
Mississippi has something to prove because it does have a lot of provincialism, some pretty bad dietary habits among some, hillbilly ways, and not a lot of positive PR --but it also has come a long way and has much to offer--so rather than being defensive just work to get that message out. The sooner Ms owns up to its faults the faster it can move on up in the rankings in various categories. That alone will change perceptions.
OK. So without looking it up, name a vacation destination in Idaho. How about the capitol?
That's the point, of course. Idaho is one of the places that is fairly unknown to most citizens.
But most people have some sort of feel for what might go on in Mississippi.
That, of course, was my point.
Mississippi has nothing to prove. We invite all to come see for themselves.
04-10-2011, 09:59 AM
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OK. So without looking it up, name a vacation destination in Idaho. How about the capitol?
That's the point, of course. Idaho is one of the places that is fairly unknown to most citizens.
But most people have some sort of feel for what might go on in Mississippi.
That, of course, was my point.
Mississippi has nothing to prove. We invite all to come see for themselves.
Listener I don't mean to argue with you. But Sun Valley comes to mind. I didn't look it up, so I could be mistaken. When I think of Idaho I think of beautiful montains, ski resorts, and the outdoors. Clean air, healthy active lifestyles and lovely small cities like Boise come to mind. When I first knew I was coming to MS years ago, I had horrible things in mind, I can tell you.
I am still chagrined at the lack of sophisticated thinking and the "We are just fine and don't tell us what to do" attitude that keeps us backward in many ways.
04-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Location: NE Mississippi
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Listener I don't mean to argue with you. But Sun Valley comes to mind. I didn't look it up, so I could be mistaken. When I think of Idaho I think of beautiful montains, ski resorts, and the outdoors. Clean air, healthy active lifestyles and lovely small cities like Boise come to mind. When I first knew I was coming to MS years ago, I had horrible things in mind, I can tell you.
I am still chagrined at the lack of sophisticated thinking and the "We are just fine and don't tell us what to do" attitude that keeps us backward in many ways.
Point is, Idaho doesn't have much of a reputation one way or the other.
California?.......People think this or that.
Florida?.......something else.
New York?...........OK, I've got an idea.
Texas?...........cowboys, etc.
Mississippi?...........almost everyone has an opinion. Most of them are wrong one way or the other, but you sure wouldn't get those blank looks you got when you announced Idaho as a destination.
"Backward in many ways"? Shame on you.
And what would be the alternative to "We are just fine and don't tell us what to do"? Should be turn to Idaho for leadership? Thank them for pointing out that they are, by the author's estimation, not any better than us?
He's just having fun. In the process he's chastising Idaho for not showing more progress than they have. I'd guess most Idahoans are pretty happy with where they live, and, like most Mississippians, agree they could do better.
Have you ever eaten
Squirrel Cacciatore, Rabbit Ravioli in Basil Cream Sauce, Crawfish Fettuccine, Tiggy’s Favorite Baked Doves or Coon a la Delta ? That's not how we eat. And he knows that. We do the same thing to Louisiana when we get a chance.
If any part of his message is to be taken seriously, it should be the part the implies Mississippi has taken flight, if only just a little, and has passed a few folks in the quest for honest progress.
Let's keep flappin'. The sky has no limit.
04-10-2011, 04:52 PM
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Let's keep flappin'. The sky has no limit.
Absolutely--but being aware of others' perceptions and evaluating them not just dismissing them could help. I am not necessarily referring to this Idaho writer at all--just in general--more of a listening attitude as opposed to a defensive one. Sure, he is having fun but he chose MS to "make fun of"--not Ny or Florida or Minnesota and that says something.
I disagree as I said before that Idaho gets a blank stare. I don't think that is true at all. Idaho may have a "smaller" reputation than Ms but it has a positive one. Lots of people love to go to Idaho to ski, hike, ride, and camp. Unfortunately, Ms's "larger" reputation is because of so much negative publicity and perception. That has to be overcome with hard work.
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Great, now I'm hungry for Crawfish Fetuccini.
Haters gonna hate....
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)