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Old 08-14-2011, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Actually, even without Metro Atlanta, the state of Georgia is still a much better place to be than Mississippi. Ever heard of a city called Savannah? Look it up. Better yet, come visit sometime. It's amazing.

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Old 08-15-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Actually, even without Metro Atlanta, the state of Georgia is still a much better place to be than Mississippi. Ever heard of a city called Savannah? Look it up. Better yet, come visit sometime. It's amazing.

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We love Savannah, and bought several books about the city while we were there. To all who plan to visit: Stay at a hotel right downtown so that you can walk all the various mini parks (I forget what they are called). You'll love the architecture. You will eat well in Savannah, and if you care you will learn history.

(The rest of newsboys rantings are just dichotomous drum beatings)
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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We love Savannah, and bought several books about the city while we were there. To all who plan to visit: Stay at a hotel right downtown so that you can walk all the various mini parks (I forget what they are called). You'll love the architecture. You will eat well in Savannah, and if you care you will learn history.

(The rest of newsboys rantings are just dichotomous drum beatings)
I agree, Savannah looks nice, although i've never been there I would like to go.

We may actually make it there early next month because we are going for my stepdaughter's basic training graduation in Columbia, SC and then we are taking her to Augusta, GA for her AIT training. If she gets a weekend pass we may go to Savannah.

What some people need to realize about Mississippi is that the Mississippi delta is a poor area with bad schools. It drags down our ratings, so while Mississippi has many things to improve upon, it isn't as bad as ratings suggest. I couldn't live in the delta though.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Actually, even without Metro Atlanta, the state of Georgia is still a much better place to be than Mississippi. Ever heard of a city called Savannah? Look it up. Better yet, come visit sometime. It's amazing.

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Just as there are nice cities and towns in Mississippi.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Just as there are nice cities and towns in Mississippi.
I agree. I took a trip to South Georgia (Moultrie) for the South Panola/Colquitt County football game and honestly, rural Georgia is alot like rural Mississippi. Newsboy, are you from Atlanta? You ever been to South Georgia?
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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^^^ LOL! I am from Metro Atlanta; I went to school in Athens (!!!); I now live in South Georgia (Savannah).

I love the Mississippi Gulf Coast. And Oxford is like a much smaller version of Athens, which of course is a smaller version of Austin. The rest of the state leaves much to be desire, IMO. Jacksonis simply dreadful.

I think part of Mississippi's curse is its close proximity to and strong influence from two large Southern metros that it can't claim as its own: Memphis in the north, NOLA on the South. In between there's just nothing but small towns.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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Here's a page from 1956, when Elvis performed in Tupelo. Notice the adoring fans, one of which was a 14 year old Tammy Wynette. 100 National Guardsmen were asked to control the crowds.
Elvis Presley Day is proclaimed in Tupelo, Mississippi.

Elvis Presley : September 26, 1956 : Tupelo, MS. Mississippi-Alabama Fairgrounds

You don't know nuthin'
Maybe you should check out some of the editorials and other articles in local media about Elvis's visit and concert. If you did, you'd be exposed to the hatred city officials and state officials had for the man circa 1956. I'd suggest starting with the DJ from 1956. The Jackson Daily News and Clarion-Ledger also document Mississippians hatred for Elvis and many journalists and letter writers stated that Elvis should be arrested as soon as he arrived in state. I'm not making this stuff up. I've read this stuff in old newspapers. So why would several newspapers write such stuff about Elvis if people truly loved him back then? I mean, newspapers generally play up local boys who made good, yet in Elvis's example, this is not the case. Newspapers' editorial direction opposed performers like Elvis for two important reasons: first, the majority of Mississippians disliked Elvis and all that he stood for (rebellion, sexuality, and he performed old blues songs or what was called at the time: "devil music."), second rock n roll was a fad in the mid-1950s that was expected to go by the wayside rather shortly (ironically, in the early 1980s, people believed hip hop (or rap music) was merely a fad).

The photograph further shows that its mostly youth at this show. Yes, the youth of that generation certainly liked Elvis and the other child molester, Jerry Lee Lewis. I don't dispute that. It's the older, state and city leaders who loathed Elvis--if I've been unclear about that in previous posts, then my apologies.

National guardsmen presence at the show was a way for the state and local authorities to maintain order. State officials, as well as Tupelo's elected leaders, believed that Elvis's performance would degenerate into a riot--again, read old DJ's and you'll see where I'm getting my info from.

There's a fundamental difference between you and I. I get my info from sources, whereas you dream up your information in your head or you base it on legend, myths, and word of mouth. Both methods of attaining information have flaws, but I think your method is much more flawed than mine--and your method of attaining info represents lazy, uncritical thinking.

You continually say that I don't know anything. That's true because what is "knowledge" anyway other than a socio-political compromise. In other words, people come to agreements about what is knowledge and what is not. Therefore, there are no objective truths--rather, the only Truth that exists is the Truth that people agree is true. Historical examples oftentimes point out that Truth changes over time, just like any other aspect of human "knowledge." With that in mind, what do any of us truly "know"?

I tell you these things in hope that you will one day actually try to think. In this regard, I won't hold my breath.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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^^^ LOL! I am from Metro Atlanta; I went to school in Athens (!!!); I now live in South Georgia (Savannah).

I love the Mississippi Gulf Coast. And Oxford is like a much smaller version of Athens, which of course is a smaller version of Austin. The rest of the state leaves much to be desire, IMO. Jacksonis simply dreadful.

I think part of Mississippi's curse is its close proximity to and strong influence from two large Southern metros that it can't claim as its own: Memphis in the north, NOLA on the South. In between there's just nothing but small towns.
Jackson used to be a pretty good place, however, it has suffered from poor leadership for 20 years and many people have moved from the city to the suburbs. The population has declined from 203,000 in 1980 to 173,000 in 2011.

Jackson is starting to make a comeback, starting with the revitalization of downtown. Over 2 billion dollars worth of development is currently in the works, or recently completed in Jackson.

I think Jackson needs to focus it's immediate efforts on crime, schools, and blight cleanup to change people's perception and lure more people back to the city, then use the extra tax base to fix other problems. The revitalization of downtown is already working to change perceptions.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I know many on this forum will disagree with me, and that's fine. People form different opinions about things, and I completely understand that. What I'm about to type is my experience and my experience only. I do not mean that what I'm about to type is objectively true. It's merely my subjective experience.

Mississippi is the worst state in the Union, hands down!! I've lived in other states, Cali, Michigan, Louisiana, and I've been to just about every state in the lower 48 except North Dakota (will be traveling to Alaska next month). Mississippi sucks.

Before I get to what sucks, allow me to tell you the positives. There's not much traffic here and that's good--not much traffic because not many metropolitan areas--and even in Jackson, Southhaven or the Coast, traffic patterns are predictable and you can avoid congestion. It's not like Chicago where it takes hours to get anywhere by car.

People are friendly to your face (no telling what the say behind your back and that's true of anywhere). People nod to you on the street or say hello. That's nice. I've caught myself doing that outside of Mississippi and you get no response from the person you're acknowledging.

Property values are still quite cheap in Miss. and the overall cost of living is lower than other areas, like say Atlanta, which is hundreds of times more expensive than living in Mississippi's largest city (Memphis).

Virtually little crime in Miss. I've heard that Jackson is bad, but when I lived there, I never experienced any crime committed against me. In fact, I rarely even locked my door when I lived there.

Beauty: There's an abundance of scenic beauty in the state, but you need to take it in during the Fall or Spring because Winter is rainy and summer is too durn hot.

Now for the bad: When I last lived there, I worked for the AG's office and we did a survey of people's internet connectivity. We found in 2006 that 76% of Mississippians who had internet in the home were still on dial-up. Reason: affordable high speed is not available in rural areas. We also found that only about 34% of the state's population had internet access at home. Those were depressing numbers for what we were trying to do. This matters because if you go to rural areas to visit friends, like I have to do, then you won't have internet access for a few days unless you drive to town and try to find an unsecured wifi.

Culture: most Mississippians are hyper-enthused about sports. People seem to be ga-ga about sports--all levels, especially youth sports. I'd venture to guess that most folks' lives revolve around whether or not little suzy or johnny can hit, kick, or tackle. Then there's the college sports--and you don't want to try and engage the rabid State or Ole Miss fan because they're ridiculous. It's as if they eat, sleep, and breathe their mediocre team's fortunes on the field or on the court--and both teams are really bad. Don't tell their fans that.

Hunting rules all. Wives complain of losing their husbands during the autumn for deer season. Men seemed distrustful of me because I refused to go hunting with them. Hunter's camo is everywhere, even trucks are colored to look like hunter's camo.

The cops: they're all over the place. mississippi was the first time I ever experienced a police road block for no reason other than to check drivers out, where they're going, etc. Don't mess with Mississippi cops--they have little to do other than to harass people from out of state.

The people: they're generally racist (not all of them). They blame black people and Mexicans for all their woes and then they'll say "now I'm not racist...I have black friends..." People are braggarts in Mississippi. They brag about material wealth, if they have any, which reveals their simple-mindedness. They eat like ravenous wolves and then claim they aren't fat. Everything in the state seems to revolve around food and race. Last thing on the people--most of them are idiots, yet they'll tell you that you are the idiot.

Jobs: there are few decent-paying jobs in the state. Up to the 2000 census, Mississippi lost a net population each ten years. I think that's telling.

I knew and know of quite a few folks who came to Mississippi from other states. In 9 cases out of 10 they agreed that Mississippi was the worst state in the Union. They claimed to hate the state and its arrogant people. If you don't believe me, read the posts by Mississippians on this forum and you'll get a sense of their arrogance. The common refrain among its people is "...if you don't like it here, then you can leave..." So I left--and best decision I ever made. NOLa is much better even though it too is corrupt place. The culture makes up for the negatives.

Politics: Gov. Haley Barbour--need I say any more?
Well, I do have to agree with you that the sports thing kind of stupid. Unfortunately, this mentality is not limited to Mississippi.

As for the other points you make. Yes, internet access in rural communities is pitiful. I live in Missouri, and I cannot get anything but dial up and satellite. So this, too is not limited, by any means to Mississippi.

The other items you mention, do sound bad at all to me. And what is odd is that you fail to mention the other good things about MS such as the fact that they do have gambling/casinos and the food is excellent!

Your post reads more like a marketing piece than a criticism. LOL

20yrsinBranson
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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........There's a fundamental difference between you and I.......
I'm sure you meant to say you and me, not you and I.

You don't know nuthin'.
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