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Old 01-22-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Lake Oswego, Manhattan, Aspen
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I think it's wonderful. It's just a gesture, but it's a really important gesture. So many of Mississippi's young people (like all three of my kids, who picked schools about as far from Mississippi as was possible) decide that things cannot possibly get better in Mississippi, using things like anti-Gay and anti-Abortion legislation to index the degree of hopelessness in the state.

Most of the young people driven from Mississippi by hate legislation are not Gay, and few of them will need an abortion. But the vindictiveness and stupidity reflected by those anti-Woman/anti-Gay laws and initiatives is glaringly apparent to anybody with half a brain.

A gesture like Starkville's tells best & brightest young people that there will be enlightened places within Mississippi, where it's possible to have a good life. That's an important message.

Starkville, being a university town, attracts (and has attracted for over a century) a 'pre-qualified' set of people. They've been run through an invisible filter - filtering-out low IQs, and many people from low-income homes - filtering out people with dysfunctional traditions/attitudes/habits. I've pointed out Mississippi's 'Great Dichotomy' before: those who can & do are on one side of the divide, and those who can't and don't are on the other side. Starkville's University (one whose featured degree programs tend to emphasize Math and Science) has traditionally filtered out stupid people from stupid families.

An earlier manifestation of the effects of that filter would be the success of the Cotton District, which may be the First New Urbanist Development in the World. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cotton_DistrictYou Other New Urbanist communities were copied from the one in Starkville (secretly, of course, since the very name 'Mississippi' has been made shameful by the Mainstream Media) http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmysm...n/photostream/ . (look at all the Cotton District pics in the photostream: many good shots)

You need an invisible filter for New Urbanism to work. That's why it works in the lily-white Pacific Northwest, and in wealthy Florida enclaves like Seaside and Rosemary Beach, where most people don't actually have to make a living while they're there. The presence of too much dangerous riffraff quickly brings the progressiveness to a grinding halt. With 'Under-served Youths' roaming the streets, 'Connectivity' reverts to vulnerability. Starkville has a filter that is both big and effective. Except for athletes, virtually everyone coming to school there is (relatively) intelligent, enlightened, honest, productive, and non-violent. Starkville types may drive pickup trucks and have Skoal in their back pockets: but they know the Square Root of 144 without thinking, and, without consulting a reference, can give you a pretty-good explanation of the Theory of Relativity. And 99% of them see Evolution as FACT (not "just a theory"). It's a nice place, and this gesture by the City gets that point across really well.

In any event, this LGBT Recognition subtly conveys to young people poised to flee Mississippi, that there are high points in the state, above the Sea of Hopelessness.

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Old 01-23-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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GG, can you provide actual evidence and not just anecdotes that young people are leaving Mississippi because of "hate legislation"? The last time I checked, two of the largest "progressive" states (NY and CA) weren't doing so well.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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She didn't say young people are fleeing the state but they are. Young people are leaving here because in case you didn't noticed there aren't an abundance of jobs here in this state where you can make a large amount of money. Most people that do leave end up coming back because either they move to places that are more expensive to live or family pressure to move back. Like someone said they go make Yankee money and move back down here to live off it because it's cheap to do so. People are leaving California because normal people can't afford to live there and NY it's not that people are leaving, it's just that other states are growing at a much higher rate like Florida which by the end of the year will become the 3rd largest state in the nation.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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She didn't say young people are fleeing the state but they are. Young people are leaving here because in case you didn't noticed there aren't an abundance of jobs here in this state where you can make a large amount of money. Most people that do leave end up coming back because either they move to places that are more expensive to live or family pressure to move back. Like someone said they go make Yankee money and move back down here to live off it because it's cheap to do so. People are leaving California because normal people can't afford to live there and NY it's not that people are leaving, it's just that other states are growing at a much higher rate like Florida which by the end of the year will become the 3rd largest state in the nation.
I know there has been a "brain drain" out of Mississippi for decades. But GG claimed it was because of the state's "hate legislation".
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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I know there has been a "brain drain" out of Mississippi for decades. But GG claimed it was because of the state's "hate legislation".
You are correct !
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas via ATX
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I came here to specifically comment on this. I think its a good thing for a city like Starkville to take this step. I have to say that it is a little embarrassing that it is the very first city in Mississippi to officially acknowledge gay rights, if only in a symbolic way. But good on them for doing it.

I visited Starkville once several years ago while working in Columbus for a week and I enjoyed the Cotton District's buildings very much. I thought it was very cool and forward-thinking. Starkville has a lot of potential. If anything, this declaration might help establish them as a more moderate and liberal and open option to Oxford, which I found to be very Republican, white and desperately ersatz elitist.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Start of by spelling the cities name correctly.
Oh, boo hoo.....

I slipped an 'e' into the city's name.

Shoot me.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Oh, boo hoo.....

I slipped an 'e' into the city's name.

Shoot me.
Bang!
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I know there has been a "brain drain" out of Mississippi for decades. But GG claimed it was because of the state's "hate legislation".
Sure isn't helping.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Good for starksville.
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