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Old 03-25-2023, 10:40 AM
 
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Old 03-25-2023, 11:58 AM
 
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Just horrible. Central to northern MS and AL seem to be getting more tornadoes in recent years..
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Old 03-25-2023, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Complete and total devastation of Rolling Fork like nuclear destruction. Tornado path was 100 miles long. Dark of night tornadoes are really deadly. It is hard to warn people.



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Old 03-25-2023, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Just horrible. Central to northern MS and AL seem to be getting more tornadoes in recent years..
Tornado activity is moving eastward from the historic midwest Tornado Alley.


Tornado Alley May Be Shifting East and Scientists Don't Know Why

https://www.wunderground.com/article...-shifting-east
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Old 03-29-2023, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Tornado activity is moving eastward from the historic midwest Tornado Alley.
Tornado Alley May Be Shifting East and Scientists Don't Know Why
https://www.wunderground.com/article...-shifting-east
"... and Scientists Don't Know Why"
I love Weather Channel click-bait headlines, plus this article is from 2018. They do know exactly what changes are causing more tornadoes to spawn in the southeast. Basically, the middle of the country is getting dryer and the southeast is getting wetter. This pushes the conditions most prone to creation of supercells farther south and east. So fewer tornadoes in Kansas, more in Mississippi.

The authors of the study referenced in the article simply said, paraphrase, 'this study doesn't prove or disprove global warming. It only documents a regional climate shift that could be caused by man-caused climate change, or by natural changes, or a combination of both'. The study quoted in the article is here.

But again, that was over 4 years ago. Here is an article in the Associated Press published this week, quoting a study with one of the same authors published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society in January 2023. And yep, it's "anthropogenic climate change".

AP News: Tornado-spawning storms may get worse due to warming

BAMS: The Future of Supercells in the United States
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Old 03-29-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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"... and Scientists Don't Know Why"
I love Weather Channel click-bait headlines, plus this article is from 2018. They do know exactly what changes are causing more tornadoes to spawn in the southeast. Basically, the middle of the country is getting dryer and the southeast is getting wetter. This pushes the conditions most prone to creation of supercells farther south and east. So fewer tornadoes in Kansas, more in Mississippi.

The authors of the study referenced in the article simply said, paraphrase, 'this study doesn't prove or disprove global warming. It only documents a regional climate shift that could be caused by man-caused climate change, or by natural changes, or a combination of both'. The study quoted in the article is here.

But again, that was over 4 years ago. Here is an article in the Associated Press published this week, quoting a study with one of the same authors published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society in January 2023. And yep, it's "anthropogenic climate change".

AP News: Tornado-spawning storms may get worse due to warming

BAMS: The Future of Supercells in the United States
I know what has changed, and that is our ability to forecast weather and see tornadoes as they form up. Everyone I know had the TV on and was watching the tornadoes. We had warnings down to the minute about each location.


This is very different from the days of the 50's and 60's when we could only guess.


Man-made?..... I kind of doubt it. There have always been strong tornadoes - so strong that Dorothy and Toto were whipped away by one in 1939.


Nighttime tornadoes are still frightening, even when we know it's going to miss us. The dogs and I stood outside listening to the sirens, and while we knew we were safe, I also knew there were people in shelters and closets who could do little but hope...
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Old 04-03-2023, 05:36 PM
 
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Major reason we crossed Mississippi off the retirement possibility list. Too much extreme weather.
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Old 04-03-2023, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Man-made?..... I kind of doubt it. There have always been strong tornadoes -
The "man made" part of it is what they are saying is moving the dry line east due to the droughts in the west. They blame the droughts on climate change.

Historically the dry line usually sat around the 100th meridian so that is where the gulf air would clash with the dry air from the west. The dry line would sometimes bounce over to the 98th meridian and we would see violent weather further east like we are seeing now.

Lately the dry line has been sitting on the 98th meridian and is moving east from there at times. Moving almost clear over into Arkansas at times. In fact it is rare when the dry line is pushed back to the 100th meridian over the past several years. They are questioning if this is the new normal or just an anomaly because of the recent El Nino/Nina conditions off of the west coast.
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Old 04-06-2023, 05:30 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Major reason we crossed Mississippi off the retirement possibility list. Too much extreme weather.
Weather might be a good thing to consider, but it doesn't follow political lines. That's what state lines are - political.

As you can see, the coastal areas are not part of the "Dixie Alley" or "Southern Alley". In fact, my own corner of NE Mississippi is pretty darn safe, although we do get 'em.
KS-OK-NE have some of the worst tornadoes, although we in the south may actually have more.
Of course, that's just tornadoes. Each of us gets to define "extreme weather" for himself, so what may be a routine blizzard to a Buffalo native may be extreme to me, and what may be breath robbing heat to you may be an August afternoon to a native New Orleansian.
Pick your Poison!
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