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Old 06-30-2017, 09:22 PM
 
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Some of you may have read the story from The Atlantic about Jaelyn Young, from Vicksburg, and Muhammad "Moe" Daklalla, from Starkville - they tried to join ISIS in Syria but were arrested at Columbus, Mississippi airport on their way. Turns out they were talking to FBI agents the whole time, not real ISIS members. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...hlalla/524751/

They got prison.

What's more is that in Vicksburg, according to the article, people feel Jaelyn is "dead" to them, since they are US Army Corps of Engineer folks and don't want to endanger their jobs by saying anything remotely praising Jaelyn. Perhaps people from Starkville don't have the same reservations though

What do you guys think of this story?

BTW Jaelyn Young thought that Golden Triangle Airport security staff wouldn't catch her Families of Mississippi ISIS honeymooners Jaelyn Young, Muhammad Dakhlalla stunned - CBS News

She didn't realize the FBI was waiting for her and her boyfriend (they had an Islamic marriage ceremony but never filed for a civil marriage certificate) there

Last edited by Vicman; 06-30-2017 at 10:46 PM..
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Thanks for the update. I had been wondering what happened to those two misguided clowns.

Their arrest at the airport may have saved their lives, or what is left of their lives. Personally, I hope they don't spend too much of their lives in jail. There is hope for them yet, if they wish to become productive members of society.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:05 PM
 
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Thanks for the update. I had been wondering what happened to those two misguided clowns.

Their arrest at the airport may have saved their lives, or what is left of their lives. Personally, I hope they don't spend too much of their lives in jail. There is hope for them yet, if they wish to become productive members of society.
Yep, they did say that their lives had been saved since the FBI had arrested them https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...hlalla/524751/

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In an alternate world—one where Jaelyn and Moe had really been talking to ISIS recruiters, and actually made their way to Syria, and truly joined the Islamic State—the young pair might have gotten involved in violence. They might very well be dead by now: The FBI theoretically made them safer by apprehending them, and Moe and Jaelyn have both said they’re glad they were not successful in their attempt to run away.

But it’s also impossible to know what the world would look like had the FBI not intervened. Perhaps Jaelyn and Moe would have found a real recruiter and made their journey. Perhaps they would have abandoned the idea—a passing, absurd notion born of unhappiness and anxiety, corrected with time and space and the natural force of inertia. Or perhaps they could have been found by Muslim community members who wanted to help, not prosecute, them. Maybe they’d still be together, somewhere in Mississippi, learning about Islam and figuring out where they belong.
By using the Federal Bureau of Prisons locator : https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ Jaelyn Young is in the FCI Tallahassee federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida and Muhammad Oda Dakhlalla is in FCI Jesup in Jesup, Georgia.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Thought yall already knew the outcome of this. Both foing prison time, oddly enough the female doing more time then guy , and be in their mid 30s by time they make parole.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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There is a thread on this in the forum. If I remember correctly, she was the instigator. The best punishment would have been to let them go.
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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There is a thread on this in the forum. If I remember correctly, she was the instigator. The best punishment would have been to let them go.
Yep, she was the instigator.

Letting them die was what a lot of Western governments did. Unfortunately it meant allowing minors (under 16) to do the journey. There were two Austrian girls of Bosnian heritage who went... and they're dead.

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Thought yall already knew the outcome of this. Both foing prison time, oddly enough the female doing more time then guy , and be in their mid 30s by time they make parole.
Technically it would be "supervised release", not parole. The federal court system doesn't allow parole for people sentenced after 1987. The only way Moe and Jaelyn can get less time is if they get "good time" through good behavior.
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Yep, she was the instigator.

Letting them die was what a lot of Western governments did. Unfortunately it meant allowing minors (under 16) to do the journey. There were two Austrian girls of Bosnian heritage who went... and they're dead.



Technically it would be "supervised release", not parole. The federal court system doesn't allow parole for people sentenced after 1987. The only way Moe and Jaelyn can get less time is if they get "good time" through good behavior.
Might want to recheck that for here. Many people make parole here.
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Old 07-03-2017, 12:49 AM
 
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They were sentenced in federal court, not state court. The feds have their own rules.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2...role-11.29.pdf

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In the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 (SRA), Congress eliminated federal parole for all prisoners convicted on or after November 1, 1987. The SRA did not eliminate parole eligibility for prisoners sentenced before that date.
Parole is still available for the following:
  • People convicted in federal court before November 1, 1987
  • Felons sentenced in District of Columbia courts before August 5, 2000
  • People sentenced in military courts
  • Transfer treaty (people convicted of crimes in foreign countries serving the remainders of their sentences in the US)
  • People in the U.S. Marshals Service Witness Protection Program who were convicted of state crimes

BTW transfer treaty folks may only be moved to federal prison from foreign countries, even if their crimes would have sent them to state prison if committed stateside

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Might want to recheck that for here. Many people make parole here.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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They were sentenced in federal court, not state court. The feds have their own rules.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2...role-11.29.pdf



Parole is still available for the following:
  • People convicted in federal court before November 1, 1987
  • Felons sentenced in District of Columbia courts before August 5, 2000
  • People sentenced in military courts
  • Transfer treaty (people convicted of crimes in foreign countries serving the remainders of their sentences in the US)
  • People in the U.S. Marshals Service Witness Protection Program who were convicted of state crimes

BTW transfer treaty folks may only be moved to federal prison from foreign countries, even if their crimes would have sent them to state prison if committed stateside
Alright. Thanks for the clarification.
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