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Old 09-25-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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Hello! My husband and I and 2 young teenagers have been going back and forth on where to move. We were looking at Charleston, however Charleston has changed so much since I was born there in '78 that it's barely less populated than the town we're moving from currently (Fort Collins, CO). I really want to get back to the coast and REALLY want to be out of the rat race. Now please, I have looked into MANY coastal towns in the south and the area we're most interested in is Biloxi, Gulfport, Long Beach - you know, down around there. I know there are huge differences, but those are differences we welcome to obtain a slower lifestyle.

At this time we are planning to be there in August of 2018. I've been on Craigslist every day looking at housing and jobs - but I'm wondering if it's more old school down there. I've never found a job on Craigslist, and only one apartment because I was out of state while I was looking... everything I've found has been good old fashioned foot work. Calling phone numbers on 'for rent' signs in front of rentals - walking in to a business with my resume and a hand shake... that's how I've had the most success. Is it like that down there? Is Craigslist my best option for these things or do you find more in person?

A second question is about dogs. The ads I HAVE seen mostly say "small" dogs. Is this a thing down there? Seems to be a lot of intolerance for bigger dogs... We have a 9 year old Labrador that we're not willing to abandon - is it unheard of for landlords to allow bigger dogs?

Thank you all!
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Old 09-27-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Jackson, Mississippi
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Default Move to Coastal Mississippi

If you are looking to obtain a slower lifestyle, you'll definitely find it in Mississippi! Mississippians are Southerners tried and true, and can make great neighbors. The thing Mississippians value most is each other, and we take care of each other the most. We go to church the most, make some of the best food in the world, and are regarded and known for their "old-fashioned" Southern Hospitality.

The state, though, is probably the state with the lowest amount of transplants, so don't be surprised if nobody that you'll end up knowing here roots for the same sports teams as you do. However, I must say that the coast is much more urban than the rest of the state, and from that it can have a good bit more transplants than the coast.

All of those cities, although rather old (late 19th century, except for Biloxi (French Nouvelle Biloxi) compared to some areas on the coast, generally are good in all regards except for the fact that they're more dense and urban compared to the rest of the state and the rest of Harrison County. All areas have comparable population densities to that of Charleston, SC, all rounding out to be 1000-1500 people per square mile.

That being said, none of those cities, Biloxi, Long Beach, or Gulfport, have as vibrant or densely populated of a downtown/city center as Charleston, South Carolina with it being a large colonial city. The oldest and second largest city on the MS Coast, Biloxi, technically was first settled as a small fort by the French in the 1740s, was abandoned except for the land grants in the immediate vicinity of Biloxi (which left no colonial plantations, as the soil was just white sand), and it didn't really develop even as a small town until about the 1840s. Gulfport develops as a small port town for the shipping of timber in the 19th Century and as a holiday town in the late 19th century. Long Beach might be somewhere in between in age, but it's never grown as much, with Gulfport having the port and all and Biloxi having the old holiday homes dating from the early 19th Century through the early 20th Century. (A lot of those homes were later wiped out by Camille in the 1960s and since Katrina hit, not much remains. An exception would be Beauvoir, which is worth visiting.)

The population and total area for those cities are:

Gulfport: Pop. of 72,076, Total Area of 64.2 square miles

Biloxi: Pop. of 45,975, Total Area of 46.7 square miles

Long Beach: Pop. of 15,677, Total Area of 10.4 square miles


As far as finding a job, it may be harder finding jobs down here because

A) it may actually be old-fashioned down here, with referrals and in-person job interviews and phone calls made being preferred over looking for work on Craigslist.

or

B) there might not be near as many jobs to go around.


As far as housing, I would say that (if possible) you should own (or I should rather say mortgage) a single-family home rather than rent, since that is the preference down here for just about every family down here who can afford it, because if you are in fact able to afford it, you may "stick out" as some may put it, due to the fact that nobody who can afford a mortgage on a house rents down here. The ones that can afford it and do so usually are empty-nesters or singles.

I'm not sure about the dogs and renting part, but I am sure that if you have your own home, which I am sure you can find in and about the coast, that you can keep your Labrador.

The Coast, aside from the casinos and the bars in Gulfport and Biloxi, but mostly Biloxi, since that's where the overwhelming majority of the casinos are and where they were started, is actually mostly family friendly, especially compared to the city proper of New Orleans, their neighbor to the west.

Of the Three cities listed, Long Beach by a long-shot has the best schools. https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MS/s...k.aspx?level=3

However, of all the cities on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Pass Christian has the best High School on the coast.

Probably the best one of all the cities on the Mississippi Coast is Ocean Springs, which has a high school that is not too far behind Pass Christian's, is located just east of Biloxi, has a nice small-town feel to it, has a well visited and rather cohesive downtown that is delightful, Easy to get to since I-10 goes through it, and U.S. 90 goes just north of its historic downtown that dates to the 1820s, was the site of the first landing of the French Exploration of the part of North America that would become French Louisiana (which would include Mississippi and Alabama until 1763), is relatively safe, compared to Gulfport and Biloxi (although Long Beach has a lower crime rate.) Ocean Springs is slightly larger than Long Beach, and has more crime, but has better schools and is in a more interesting (not neccessarily "adult" interesting) area. It has the Walter Anderson Museum of Art, dedicated to the life's work of Mississippi artist Walter Anderson. It's a great place to visit (visited it many times) and I am sure it is a very livable city!

Good luck to you finding work, and I hope the work and research you are doing will turn out good. I recommend visiting Long Beach and Ocean Springs, looking at houses, arranging and showing up in person to job interviews, and getting to know your way down there.
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Old 09-28-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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+1 for Ocean Springs. I'm retiring soon and fleeing Mississippi for the Rockies, but were I to stay here, OS is where I'd go.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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If you are looking to obtain a slower lifestyle, you'll definitely find it in Mississippi! Mississippians are Southerners tried and true, and can make great neighbors. The thing Mississippians value most is each other, and we take care of each other the most. We go to church the most, make some of the best food in the world, and are regarded and known for their "old-fashioned" Southern Hospitality.

The state, though, is probably the state with the lowest amount of transplants, so don't be surprised if nobody that you'll end up knowing here roots for the same sports teams as you do. However, I must say that the coast is much more urban than the rest of the state, and from that it can have a good bit more transplants than the coast.

All of those cities, although rather old (late 19th century, except for Biloxi (French Nouvelle Biloxi) compared to some areas on the coast, generally are good in all regards except for the fact that they're more dense and urban compared to the rest of the state and the rest of Harrison County. All areas have comparable population densities to that of Charleston, SC, all rounding out to be 1000-1500 people per square mile.

That being said, none of those cities, Biloxi, Long Beach, or Gulfport, have as vibrant or densely populated of a downtown/city center as Charleston, South Carolina with it being a large colonial city. The oldest and second largest city on the MS Coast, Biloxi, technically was first settled as a small fort by the French in the 1740s, was abandoned except for the land grants in the immediate vicinity of Biloxi (which left no colonial plantations, as the soil was just white sand), and it didn't really develop even as a small town until about the 1840s. Gulfport develops as a small port town for the shipping of timber in the 19th Century and as a holiday town in the late 19th century. Long Beach might be somewhere in between in age, but it's never grown as much, with Gulfport having the port and all and Biloxi having the old holiday homes dating from the early 19th Century through the early 20th Century. (A lot of those homes were later wiped out by Camille in the 1960s and since Katrina hit, not much remains. An exception would be Beauvoir, which is worth visiting.)

The population and total area for those cities are:

Gulfport: Pop. of 72,076, Total Area of 64.2 square miles

Biloxi: Pop. of 45,975, Total Area of 46.7 square miles

Long Beach: Pop. of 15,677, Total Area of 10.4 square miles


As far as finding a job, it may be harder finding jobs down here because

A) it may actually be old-fashioned down here, with referrals and in-person job interviews and phone calls made being preferred over looking for work on Craigslist.

or

B) there might not be near as many jobs to go around.


As far as housing, I would say that (if possible) you should own (or I should rather say mortgage) a single-family home rather than rent, since that is the preference down here for just about every family down here who can afford it, because if you are in fact able to afford it, you may "stick out" as some may put it, due to the fact that nobody who can afford a mortgage on a house rents down here. The ones that can afford it and do so usually are empty-nesters or singles.

I'm not sure about the dogs and renting part, but I am sure that if you have your own home, which I am sure you can find in and about the coast, that you can keep your Labrador.

The Coast, aside from the casinos and the bars in Gulfport and Biloxi, but mostly Biloxi, since that's where the overwhelming majority of the casinos are and where they were started, is actually mostly family friendly, especially compared to the city proper of New Orleans, their neighbor to the west.

Of the Three cities listed, Long Beach by a long-shot has the best schools. https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MS/s...k.aspx?level=3

However, of all the cities on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Pass Christian has the best High School on the coast.

Probably the best one of all the cities on the Mississippi Coast is Ocean Springs, which has a high school that is not too far behind Pass Christian's, is located just east of Biloxi, has a nice small-town feel to it, has a well visited and rather cohesive downtown that is delightful, Easy to get to since I-10 goes through it, and U.S. 90 goes just north of its historic downtown that dates to the 1820s, was the site of the first landing of the French Exploration of the part of North America that would become French Louisiana (which would include Mississippi and Alabama until 1763), is relatively safe, compared to Gulfport and Biloxi (although Long Beach has a lower crime rate.) Ocean Springs is slightly larger than Long Beach, and has more crime, but has better schools and is in a more interesting (not neccessarily "adult" interesting) area. It has the Walter Anderson Museum of Art, dedicated to the life's work of Mississippi artist Walter Anderson. It's a great place to visit (visited it many times) and I am sure it is a very livable city!

Good luck to you finding work, and I hope the work and research you are doing will turn out good. I recommend visiting Long Beach and Ocean Springs, looking at houses, arranging and showing up in person to job interviews, and getting to know your way down there.

My gosh - Thank you for all of the information! I was a bit confused on all of the housing stuff you mentioned - I've seen lots of rentals around the area. What would stop us from purchasing would be our credit, unfortunately. Both of our scores dropped by over 100 points over the last year and a half due to cost of living here. We've had to prioritize our payments, so things have been late, so scores have gone down. We would have to rent until we can get our scores up to where they'd have to be I'm sure.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:16 PM
 
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+1 for Ocean Springs. I'm retiring soon and fleeing Mississippi for the Rockies, but were I to stay here, OS is where I'd go.
Thank you!
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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If you do come to coastal MS for a visit, I would strongly recommend checking out the Alabama gulf coast as well. Mobile Bay's eastern shore has several towns that might meet your needs, with more amenities than you're likely to find in MS. Plus, the Alabama beaches are just nicer.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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If you do come to coastal MS for a visit, I would strongly recommend checking out the Alabama gulf coast as well. Mobile Bay's eastern shore has several towns that might meet your needs, with more amenities than you're likely to find in MS. Plus, the Alabama beaches are just nicer.
Thank you! I will look there also 😊
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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i like ms better than alabama, except for a pesty hurricane every once in a while, its pretty nice
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Avoid Pascagoula/Moss Point like the plague. Incredible amounts of trash everywhere, and everyone seems to have at least one broken down car permanently parked in their yard. Moss Point's water is brown and reeks of sulphur. The air smelled bad, too, with a weird chemical smell.

Being an animal lover, be prepared for a very different mindset from Mississippians regarding animals. Small dogs are part of the family if they are lucky, but the larger ones are regulated to being outdoor dogs. I can't tell you how many dogs I've seen chained to a doghouse in the far reaches of the backyard...not to mention how many people don't allow any animal in their house. Don't even get me started on the issue of dog dumping, which was common practice done without any sense of shame.

I didn't care for coastal Mississippi at all....northeast Mississippi is beautiful with clean air. Animal issues were the same there, though.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Avoid Pascagoula/Moss Point like the plague. Incredible amounts of trash everywhere, and everyone seems to have at least one broken down car permanently parked in their yard. Moss Point's water is brown and reeks of sulphur. The air smelled bad, too, with a weird chemical smell.

Being an animal lover, be prepared for a very different mindset from Mississippians regarding animals. Small dogs are part of the family if they are lucky, but the larger ones are regulated to being outdoor dogs. I can't tell you how many dogs I've seen chained to a doghouse in the far reaches of the backyard...not to mention how many people don't allow any animal in their house. Don't even get me started on the issue of dog dumping, which was common practice done without any sense of shame.

I didn't care for coastal Mississippi at all....northeast Mississippi is beautiful with clean air. Animal issues were the same there, though.
That is all pretty sad
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