Was Curtis Flowers railroaded? (Winona: crime, attorneys, law)

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

In 1996, someone entered a furniture store in downtown Winona, shot and killed four people, and left. But is Curtis Flowers the killer?
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...nce/764197002/
I remember when the crime happened. A dark day in a small town.

[Listener2307]

Is Flowers the killer? Yes, I think so. But I remain opposed to the death penalty.


He had recently been fired from the store. A 380 caliber handgun was stolen from Flowers' uncle the day of the murders. Bloody shoe print was the same size as flowers' shoe. Gunshot residue on Flowers hands. 287$ was taken and 255$ was found at Flowers' girlfriends' house.


Life without parole.

[sammyreynolds1977]

Isn't he about to be tried for a 7th time?

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

District attorneys can be dangerous because they are accountable to no one. They rarely lose re-election because few people bother to vote. They also have a degree of immunity from being sued for malfeasance.

[viverlibre]

Before listening to the "In the Dark" podcast (produced by SJWs), I would have voted guilty, but now...I have doubts.

The podcast paints this as a racial issue, but at the same time points the finger at a different black man.

If the podcast had painted this as a case of shoddy police work framing a poor, perhaps mentally diminished, recently fired employee, it would have likely turned out better. The producers beat you over the head so much with the racial angle, it likely turned some off.

[viverlibre]

Some of these small town DAs are certainly not the sharpest knives in the drawer, if you have ever seen the Panola County DA being interviewed about the Jessica Chambers case, you know what I mean.

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

Before listening to the "In the Dark" podcast (produced by SJWs), I would have voted guilty, but now...I have doubts.

The podcast paints this as a racial issue, but at the same time points the finger at a different black man.

If the podcast had painted this as a case of shoddy police work framing a poor, perhaps mentally diminished, recently fired employee, it would have likely turned out better. The producers beat you over the head so much with the racial angle, it likely turned some off.

Shoddy police work is one thing. Framing an innocent man is another.

[viverlibre]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

Shoddy police work is one thing. Framing an innocent man is another.

Concur but unlike police dramas on TV, real-life law enforcement often looks for the easiest and most logical suspect, then builds a case around that. When the suspect to has no money or connected friends/family, it makes it all the easier.

DAs, Police Chiefs and Sheriffs have victims families and citizens pressuring them to quickly make an arrest and get a conviction, they want to keep their jobs so they may rush to judgment, they will go to trial without an airtight case. This is the difference between federal and local prosecutions, the feds won't take a case to court unless they are 95% sure of winning, but they aren't facing the political pressure of having to keep the local voters happy either.

And one public service announcement, if you are ever involved in a serious matter, never, never, never, never talk to law enforcement without the most expensive attorney you can afford (be wary, there are a lot of incompetent attornies out there).

[the_little_truth_writer]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

Concur but unlike police dramas on TV, real-life law enforcement often looks for the easiest and most logical suspect, then builds a case around that. When the suspect to has no money or connected friends/family, it makes it all the easier.

DAs, Police Chiefs and Sheriffs have victims families and citizens pressuring them to quickly make an arrest and get a conviction, they want to keep their jobs so they may rush to judgment, they will go to trial without an airtight case. This is the difference between federal and local prosecutions, the feds won't take a case to court unless they are 95% sure of winning, but they aren't facing the political pressure of having to keep the local voters happy either.

And one public service announcement, if you are ever involved in a serious matter, never, never, never, never talk to law enforcement without the most expensive attorney you can afford (be wary, there are a lot of incompetent attornies out there).

I completely agree with everything you said.

"The opposite of poverty is not wealth; the opposite of poverty is justice."

- Bryan Stevenson

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Flowers’ conviction overturned yet again.
https://reason.com/2019/06/21/suprem...or-same-crime/
Is this the case of a bigoted, out-of-control prosecutor who would rather see an innocent man die than admit he was wrong?