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Old 01-23-2019, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of AL and FL
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Two things about MS Casinos:

1. How no one could figure out some sort of exemption to get one in downtown Jxn shows how little forethought and vision city leaders have employed for some time. The convention center is losing money hand over fist, turn it into a casino!

2. The two-lane highway (Hwy 16) that runs from Hwy 25 to the Silver Star/Golden Moon is among the worst in the state. This is the main route one would travel from the metro. Why haven't the Choctaws complained so loudly that it forced the state to take action?
Good point on Jackson I guess. Not sure why they could not have put one on the Pearl River, don’t know the rules.

As far as 16, it was nice back in the 90s and 00s. Asphalt has a 15-20 year shelf life at maximum, and with the Yazoo clay, usually sooner.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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Meanwhile in Arkansas, just across the border from Memphis, there is this announcement from Southland. Southland is one of the locations that is almost certainly taking Tunica down.


https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...gaming-racing/
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Old 01-24-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Agree to disagree, though I still can't see how you arrived at this viewpoint.

Casinos waaaaay overbuilt around, as viverlibre originally stated in the OP. State dumped a lot of money into building a new Tunica Airport and getting commercial service there, which ended up being a mistake. Roads were built and widened. There were all kinds of private developments there and in the other casinos like Pearl River Resort. I just do not realize how anyone can say that the state, or anyone, "wet the bed". The only mistake I see is not concentrating all the casinos in Biloxi, Vicksburg and Natchez (areas with tourist draws). Tunica, Greenville and Philadelphia were just dumb areas to do it, middle of nowhere. I'm oversimplifying but you get the point.

Incentives were given, but the reason that Tunica has failed is due to location and competition, bottom line. Everything that could be done, WAS done.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken, there is a casino in Philadelphia (used to be two) because it's run by the Choctaw Indians, and that's the only way a casino is allowed to be on solid land (except they extended the limit on the coast by a couple miles after Katrina). The rest are really on barges or boats.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of AL and FL
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Meanwhile in Arkansas, just across the border from Memphis, there is this announcement from Southland. Southland is one of the locations that is almost certainly taking Tunica down.

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...gaming-racing/
Good for the Memphis Metro, I say, which includes parts of Mississippi.

Again, Tunica is going nowhere, just a mistake by all involved. West Memphis may or may not meet the same fate.

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Unless I'm sadly mistaken, there is a casino in Philadelphia (used to be two) because it's run by the Choctaw Indians, and that's the only way a casino is allowed to be on solid land (except they extended the limit on the coast by a couple miles after Katrina). The rest are really on barges or boats.
You are correct.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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With regard to the Choctaw casinos in Philadelphia: are there not still two of them - Silver Star & the Golden Moon - or did one of them close? I remember them struggling to keep the Golden Moon open during the recession but a quick search on the internet suggests that both are still operating.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Again, Tunica is going nowhere, just a mistake by all involved.
I agree. Tunica may lose another casino or two but it will settle into an amount that is sustainable for the market as it is. Since casinos came to other states in the region Tunica isn't as big of a draw as it once was, but it's still a draw.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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I think they will lose more than two. I've been told from people I know that still work there that there are about 3 or more than are close to closing their doors.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of AL and FL
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I agree. Tunica may lose another casino or two but it will settle into an amount that is sustainable for the market as it is. Since casinos came to other states in the region Tunica isn't as big of a draw as it once was, but it's still a draw.
What's really criminal is seeing that awesome new airport sitting vacant over there at Tunica. That facility should be in southern Desoto County. Absolutely insane that they wanted to bring in air carriers when MEM is just right up the road. A good general aviation facility is warranted in that general, just not in Tunica, a lot of demand in southern Desoto and northern Tate Counties.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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With regard to the Choctaw casinos in Philadelphia: are there not still two of them - Silver Star & the Golden Moon - or did one of them close? I remember them struggling to keep the Golden Moon open during the recession but a quick search on the internet suggests that both are still operating.
I haven't been there in a while, but the last time I was there the Silver Star was a casino with a hotel, and the Golden Moon was used more for entertainment events (bands, etc.) and possibly conventions. They had no gaming at that time. Not sure how it is now.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Meanwhile in Arkansas, just across the border from Memphis, there is this announcement from Southland. Southland is one of the locations that is almost certainly taking Tunica down.


https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...gaming-racing/
That actually sounds pretty nice, and yes, it will almost certainly take a lot of the Memphis customers away from Tunica. Everybody likes new "stuff", and this one seems to be impressive.

Personally, I think Alabama has missed the boat on casinos. There's one run by the Porch Indians in the southern part of the state, but they calle it "bingo" ... not sure if they have slots or what. Seems to me like a good location would be at Ardmore, on the state line with Tennessee. I'll be they could get a lot of customers from not only North Alabama and NE Mississippi, but from the Nashville large metro. But Alabama has no legal gambling at all and may be waiting too late to enable it.

Lots of people here "go to Tunica". They never talk about going anywhere else. I was there a year or so ago and it certainly wasn't crowded as it once was.

In Tunica and Mississippi's defense though, several casinos have been closing around the country, including some in Atlantic City and even Las Vegas. I'm not so sure it's lack of management on the state's part, but the proliferation of casinos in almost every state now.

I like Tunica a lot more than Philadelphia (other than the golf course), but like the Coast a lot more. It's just so far away.
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