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Old 01-22-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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post #3 jhadorn tried to shoot it down talking about ticket pices would deter movie goers...blah
post #3
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It looks really cool, but I noticed tickets are $22 per person, at least in the one theater I checked on the website. Not sure enough people in Jackson would go for the theater to make a profit.
jhadorn didn't shoot down the idea of a movie theater in Jackson, but expressed the fact that the particular idea you had was too expensive. Don't take offense to your ideas so easily. The average movie ticket is around $7. There's no doubt a $1 movie theater would do great in Jackson! But a $22 theater... ???

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then YOU on post #13 said "Casinos make money, movie theaters don't"

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There's a big difference b/w a movie theater and a casino. The attraction of the casinos is that you have a chance to win money - both casinos and theaters provide a form of entertainment, but you can't make money when you go to the movies.
It's a good thing you're not a reporter. I never said "Casinos make money, movie theaters don't" and you even had the nerve to put it in quotations as if I said those exact words. I take it you've never attended a debate class. I highly recommend you do, and Marketing 101 wouldn't be a bad idea either.

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if that ain't naysaying I don't know what is...
...must be the voices in your head.

 
Old 01-22-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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Of course, but what you do is not what everyone else does and everyone may not travel or want to travel like you do. When I lived in Mississippi, I used to go out of town all the time, so what.
you miss my point yet again...IF Jackson had similar stores like the ones in Houston, ATL, Dallas, there would be no need to travel and spend all my money in OTHER STATES, do you understand that simple fact? It's about keeping the money circulating within the tax base of Jackson for as long as possible. that's REAL Economic Growth. all cities that give a darn do this, except Jackson....

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I don't know what Dave and Busters you've been to, but the ones around here in Atlanta have plenty of families that go to them whenever I've been.There are bars areas where kids are not allowed. The kids play games while mom and dad drink beer. It's pretty much Chuck E. Cheese with a bar and restaurant service. It's adults only after 10 PM in many areas though. But to say it's not for kids is a falsehood
People like you forced it to be "ok" for kids. it was not ever geared towards the kiddie crowd. I've been to a couple D&B's in houston and Dallas and dare see ONE kid in the place. it's the grown foks version of Chuckie cheese for crying out loud.

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You "get outtaheya". I don't know about you, but spending bill money on items of pleasure before paying for your essentials is known as being stupid and not having your priorities straight in my family, we called it being "hood rich".
You just called out 85% of Jacksonians...

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Like I said before, wanting to go to Six Flags every weekend vs actually going there every weekend are two totally different things. Even people I know with season passes don't do that.
check this out, I have a HUGE family scaterred all over America. we have decided every year since I was a kid to NOT have our family reuinon in Jackson...why? NOTHING for the entire family to do together. so we almost always have had it in ATL(6Flags), Houston(lots to do) or New Orleans/Biloxi(both now wiped out).

So speak for yourself on that one, I got family members in St. Louis that would lockdown some seasonal passes because they stay travelling to various themeparks around the nation. but you know what always ask me when they come here? "hey man, you down for riding out to the Vicksburg or the Coast?" that was when the Casinos were up Biloxi.

I Wonder why they didn't like sitting on the porch in Jackson just sippin' mint juelp watching traffic go by?
 
Old 01-22-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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post #3

jhadorn didn't shoot down the idea of a movie theater in Jackson, but expressed the fact that the particular idea you had was too expensive. Don't take offense to your ideas so easily. The average movie ticket is around $7. There's no doubt a $1 movie theater would do great in Jackson! But a $22 theater... ???
You think you can go to Alamo Drafthouse and walk out with only paying $5 bucks?

You'll spend $30 at Alamo Drafthouse just off beer alone. HELLO...sounds like jhadorn was taking a low swipe at the idea to me.


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post #13


It's a good thing you're not a reporter. I never said "Casinos make money, movie theaters don't" and you even had the nerve to put it in quotations as if I said those exact words. I take it you've never attended a debate class. I highly recommend you do, and Marketing 101 wouldn't be a bad idea either.

...must be the voices in your head.
yeah that's it. the voices in my head told me that you're not for a dinner theater. and I paraphrased you, so what. I was closer to the bullseye than not. You pretty much stated that it wouldn't work. post your own comment and let's see....here you go

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by jacksonian...
There's a big difference b/w a movie theater and a casino. The attraction of the casinos is that you have a chance to win money - both casinos and theaters provide a form of entertainment, but you can't make money when you go to the movies.
 
Old 01-22-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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You just called out 85% of Jacksonians...
You know not of what you speak. Have any facts to back that assumption?
 
Old 01-22-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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You think you can go to Alamo Drafthouse and walk out with only paying $5 bucks?
Again, you're trying to put words in my mouth. I specifically said TICKETS AND I never mentioned $5 anywhere.

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You'll spend $30 at Alamo Drafthouse just off beer alone. HELLO...sounds like jhadorn was taking a low swipe at the idea to me.
Again, jhadorn was referring to the theater's ticket prices that you recommended.

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yeah that's it. the voices in my head told me that you're not for a dinner theater. and I paraphrased you, so what. I was closer to the bullseye than not. You pretty much stated that it wouldn't work. post your own comment and let's see.
Again, with the lies... I said several times that I was FOR a dinner theater! Why would I even recommend the Alamo Drafthouse if I didn't support the very statement that I made??? You are making no sense whatsoever.

Keep digging that hole.
 
Old 01-22-2010, 11:15 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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check this out, I have a HUGE family scaterred all over America. we have decided every year since I was a kid to NOT have our family reuinon in Jackson...why? NOTHING for the entire family to do together. so we almost always have had it in ATL(6Flags), Houston(lots to do) or New Orleans/Biloxi(both now wiped out).

So speak for yourself on that one, I got family members in St. Louis that would lockdown some seasonal passes because they stay travelling to various themeparks around the nation. but you know what always ask me when they come here? "hey man, you down for riding out to the Vicksburg or the Coast?" that was when the Casinos were up Biloxi.

I Wonder why they didn't like sitting on the porch in Jackson just sippin' mint juelp watching traffic go by?

Where have you been? New Orleans is def. not wiped out Biloxi/Gulfport have more casinos now then it did before if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, the theater point is moot. You've already given the reason why nothing is being built there so there is no reason to continue to argue about it. From what has been said in here you should be campaigning to the metro Jackson area residents. Whatever happened to that "but Jackson" thing?

The theater may not be a bad idea if $22 covers food and admission. I pay anywhere from $10.50-$11.50 on the average movie ticket now and another $10-$15 on food so thats $30 right there. You just have to get people behind it.
 
Old 01-22-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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OJ, I see you like to twist a discussion. I never shot down a dinner theater in Jackson, and I never said one would not work. Neither did Jacksonian.

What I did say is that $22 per ticket MAY BE too expensive for the Jackson market. That's where the NOT SURE part of my post comes in, but I guess you missed it. I went on to say that a cheaper alternative dinner theater would work. My posts are as follows:

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It looks really cool, but I noticed tickets are $22 per person, at least in the one theater I checked on the website. Not sure enough people in Jackson would go for the theater to make a profit.
In response to Jacksonian's post below...

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I would rather see something like the Alamo Drafthouse come to Jackson. Same principal, but cheaper:
Alamo Drafthouse :: Main Page
I said...

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That is very similar to The AMP. I think it would work in Jackson and the price is very reasonable. I like it.
Only someone who is dense or wants to twist a persons words would try to refute the above information.
 
Old 01-22-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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you miss my point yet again...IF Jackson had similar stores like the ones in Houston, ATL, Dallas, there would be no need to travel and spend all my money in OTHER STATES, do you understand that simple fact? It's about keeping the money circulating within the tax base of Jackson for as long as possible. that's REAL Economic Growth. all cities that give a darn do this, except Jackson....
I didn't miss anything. And I perfectly understand what you are saying. Be that as it may, I made suggestions about creating a large Mills mall in relation to your post about going out of town to shop. That would be something that could attract people to Jackson. And yet again, you ignored that to try and argue with me about something minor that I said, because yet again, your lack of reading comprehension shines through. I also thought Renaissance was a good addition to the area. Too bad it didn't open in Jackson, but it is what it is. At least Mississippi finally has an Apple Store, Fresh Market, etc. So things are being opened in the area, slowly, but surely.

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People like you forced it to be "ok" for kids. it was not ever geared towards the kiddie crowd. I've been to a couple D&B's in houston and Dallas and dare see ONE kid in the place. it's the grown foks version of Chuckie cheese for crying out loud.
People like me? Who in hell exactly are "people like me"? I'm single and I have no children, therefore, I have no dog in that fight. I couldn't care less if people bought their kids to D&B or not. If they have a good time, so be it. But nice way to make dumb assumptions, as usual.

I never said that D&B was the perfect family fun activity, but it is a fun place to go and yes, it was originally geared towards adults, but kids are welcome there. Just not at the bars. And what time were you at the D&B's that you claim that no children were in. Remember, they're not allowed past 10 PM in many of them. But I've been to about 4 or 5 D&B's (and a few Jillian's before they were absorbed by D&B) and have seen children there plenty of times. I seriously doubt that all the D&B's in DFW (population 6.3 Million) or Houston (population 5.9 Million) have no children there at all.

I also mentioned bringing Boomers to the area in another thread, yet again, conveniently ignored by you.


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You just called out 85% of Jacksonians...
You know not of what you speak of. I have family members who are good with their money just as I have family members that are bad with their money. That isn't a reflection of the whole city, and if you're going to make such sweeping generalizations, that really shows what you think of Jackson and its people in general.


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check this out, I have a HUGE family scaterred all over America. we have decided every year since I was a kid to NOT have our family reuinon in Jackson...why? NOTHING for the entire family to do together. so we almost always have had it in ATL(6Flags), Houston(lots to do) or New Orleans/Biloxi(both now wiped out).

So speak for yourself on that one, I got family members in St. Louis that would lockdown some seasonal passes because they stay travelling to various themeparks around the nation. but you know what always ask me when they come here? "hey man, you down for riding out to the Vicksburg or the Coast?" that was when the Casinos were up Biloxi.

I Wonder why they didn't like sitting on the porch in Jackson just sippin' mint juelp watching traffic go by?
Well good for you and them .

But you're talking about out-of-town tourists with these statements, not locals who you claimed would "be wanting to go there every weekend. Which is what I was responding to. Another strawman argument.

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There's a big difference b/w a movie theater and a casino. The attraction of the casinos is that you have a chance to win money - both casinos and theaters provide a form of entertainment, but you can't make money when you go to the movies.
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I was closer to the bullseye than not. You pretty much stated that it wouldn't work. post your own comment and let's see....here you go
No, what Jacksonian was stating was that the people who go to casinos are under the impression that they will win money, versus a movie theater, where people are just there strictly for entertainment purposes. They're not making money there like they think they will at a casino. I don't understand why it's so hard for you to comprehend that. Think before you type something for a change and stop twisting people's words around in order to create stupid arguments that weren't even made in the first place.

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Old 01-22-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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I know LOTS of people who go to the casinos, myself included, and the ONLY one of them I know who ever entertained the notion of "making money" was someone who sufferd a brain injury 15 years ago and then went through a gambling addiction.

No one in their right mind thinks they are going to the casino to "win." Casinos are adult arcades, that's it. I can spend 25 or 30 bucks at the movies watching a single film while drinking a paper cup of syrup and munching on shredded cardboard, I can blow 75 or more on a stupid sports event where I get to wear someone else's paper cup of syrup, or I can blow fifty bucks on an evening of entertainment that includes ample light, gambling, drinks, live music, and the freedom to move around and interact with others in a manner that does not constitute assault in any other setting.

BTW, I am not, under ANY circumstances, going to pay 40 bucks or mroe to go see a movie in a theatre that doesn't offer me more than I can get at home. I don't care about dinner nor do I want to listen to everyone around me scraping forks and chewing cud. I want a theatre with ample, comfy chairs, a place to sit a drink, and a LARGE screen with state of the art projection. Where I am I can be in Jackson in 60 minutes or so and I get to RISK a drive through Madison, speed trap center of the south - or I can be in Memphis in about 75 minutes where I can see Avatar on a giant screen in 3D. Where do you think my money is gonna go?

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Old 01-22-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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I know LOTS of people who go to the casinos, myself included, and the ONLY one of them I know who ever entertained the notion of "making money" was someone who sufferd a brain injury 15 years ago and then went through a gambling addiction.

No one in their right mind thinks they are going to the casino to "win." Casinos are adult arcades, that's it. I can spend 25 or 30 bucks at the movies watching a single film while drinking a paper cup of syrup and munching on shredded cardboard, I can blow 75 or more on a stupid sports event where I get to wear someone else's paper cup of syrup, or I can blow fifty bucks on an evening of entertainment that includes ample light, gambling, drinks, live music, and the freedom to move around and interact with others in a manner that does not constitute assault in any other setting.
Come on pop, don't act like there aren't people out there that take their paycheck and cash it at the casino.
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