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Old 01-21-2010, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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Are you crazy? and get galked at by some pentacostal women walking from church????
Why would pentecostal women walking from church be passing a beach? or a pool for that matter?

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a minute ago you wanted Jackson to be "weird". well Gays kissing in public is weird no doubt. why the long face now?

oh it's a LOT of gays in Austin.
Try to stay between the lines paco. Sex in public DOES NOT EQUAL gays kissing in public.

 
Old 01-21-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Mississippi has so much potential if only our brightest didn't leave the state after graduation.
Yeah, don't be like me!

But I don't like smaller cities anyhow. I lived in Tampa for awhile and it got boring and "small" for me, so you can imagine how I was in Jackson.

I'm even considering moving from here in Atlanta and going to either DC or Texas. I'm too darn restless! LOL
 
Old 01-21-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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Yeah, and we thought that the engineers had strong levees in New Orleans, and look how that worked out. I believe that the Pearl River is capable of flooding, and it would probably be very expensive to insure a theme park in a flood zone like that.

Six Flags here in Georgia flooded during the recent rains that we had as its right by the Chattahoochee River. Never rule anything out.

A Six Flags would make more sense over on the West side of town over near the border with Clinton or by US-80 more than it would in Downtown.
downtown was just talk in debate. NOTHING is going in that area, not even 2 lakes. so...and I actually was thinking of dropping it on the
I-220 loop. nothing out that way but fields of hay. lakeover Center and a couple neighborhoods. that's about it.


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An area with Shops, Lofts and dog parks can bring money into the city as well. Storekeepers and homeowners have to pay taxes that will go to the city of Jackson. More than some balloons and T-shirts and hats (seriously?), which will go to the corporation, not the city itself. Get real. I saw that you conveniently ignored my point about Opryland being torn down in Nashville and being replaced by a shopping center, as it was proven to be more profitable in the long run. It sucks when people can refute Pollyanna arguments with facts, doesn't it?
I didn't see your OprylaNd comment but I'll reply the same way, ANYTHING in Jackson is better than NOTHING.

You nor I knows why they closed. could have been poor marketing, high tickets, weak rides, bad management, etc...WE DON'T KNOW.

and to speak on your 'Economic engines bring QOL"...NO THEY DON'T. there are a number of economic engines in Mississippi right now and what do people still do when they get paid?..go out of state and spend it.

Mississippi doesn't have a thing to call it's own where the money recirculates for a while...NOTHING...
Museum tours? HA!... flea markets? Please!...once a year Fair at the Coliseum? ...give me a brizzake!

It's almost like no matter what is put in Mississippi in terms of family entertainment just won't work in your eyes huh? Themepark, Movie theater, nothing huh. would another McDonalds do the trick for you?

you got close with Dave and Busters, but Jackson should've been had one of those 15 years ago. putting one there now will do a little, but it won't do as much as a 6 Flags with 6-7 new rides like Superman, Volcano, Titan(similar to one in Dallas), etc...

you can't tell me the kids of Mississippi won't BEG their parents to make sure they get down to 6Flags Jackson every chance they get!
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Levees were reinforced? There are sections where THERE ARE NO LEVEES! Why is that so hard for you to understand? If a flood similar to that of 1979 occurred today, Jackson would flood. I don't know how else to say it - I can't make it anymore simple than that.
Me understanding it is easy, but YOU understanding that it CAN be updated and fixed 10 times better to prevent a flood, is the hard part. You do realize they are doing this in NewOrleans as we speak?


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One, a very broad tax base that Six Flags could never match. Two, local businesses will prosper thus keeping 20-30% more of the spent money in the community. Three, an outdoor experience like no other in the nation that is FREE to the public. I can name those three easily, and I'm not even a full fledged supporter of the Two Lake plan.
while in the back of their minds a potential flood is coming, right?
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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downtown was just talk in debate. NOTHING is going in that area, not even 2 lakes. so...and I actually was thinking of dropping it on the
I-220 loop. nothing out that way but fields of hay. lakeover Center and a couple neighborhoods. that's about it.
That could be a decent location, but it would be better to put it on a mainline interstate.


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I didn't see your OprylaNd comment but I'll reply the same way, ANYTHING in Jackson is better than NOTHING.
Well let's put a row of Strip Clubs all along I-55 Frontage Road and a gigantic sex shop with a 90 foot tall ceramic penis right on top of it with a beacon. Yeah, because anything is better than nothing, isn't it.

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You nor I knows why they closed. could have been poor marketing, high tickets, weak rides, bad management, etc...WE DON'T KNOW.
Can you read? I explained the main reason why. Gaylord Entertainment (the company that owned Opryland) wasn't getting a return on their investment on the land that Opryland sat on and figured that a shopping mall would be more profitable for them and the city in the long run.

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and to speak on your 'Economic engines bring QOL"...NO THEY DON'T.
Well if you think that, then obviously you have no knowledge of business and or how these sorts of things work.

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there are a number of economic engines in Mississippi right now and what do people still do when they get paid?..go out of state and spend it.
Not necessarily. I know a lot of people who stay in the state and go to the casino when they get paid. Or go to the movies. Or go to the mall.


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It's almost like no matter what is put in Mississippi in terms of family entertainment just won't work in your eyes huh? Themepark, Movie theater, nothing huh. would another McDonalds do the trick for you?
Again, can you read? It's really hard to argue with someone who picks and chooses what I say and misconstrues what I'm saying. I didn't even mention a movie theater, where in hell did that come from. Which would be great for the city to have right about now. I just don't think that a theme park is the best idea now, or this economic bellwether that you think it is. Again, Opryland Closed, Libertyland closed, Alabama Adventure gets about 345K visitors a year. I go by facts and logic, not BS flights of fancy that have no basis in reality. Sorry.

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you got close with Dave and Busters, but Jackson should've been had one of those 15 years ago. putting one there now will do a little, but it won't do as much as a 6 Flags with 6-7 new rides like Superman, Volcano, Titan(similar to one in Dallas), etc...
Well, Jackson doesn't have one. We can sit here and go back and forth about what should've, could've, would've been here, but D&B isn't here. I think that's a good place for people to go to with the family. Maybe a Medieval Times or a Mills Shopping center (sort of like Grapevine Mills or Potomac Mills) that can house these sorts of things. With a big movie theater.

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you can't tell me the kids of Mississippi won't BEG their parents to make sure they get down to 6Flags Jackson every chance they get!
Of course they would. I wanted to go to Disneyland or Sea World every chance I could, but I couldn't. People in hell want ice water, so what is your point? If you have one at all...

Lots of people don't have that kind of disposable income to go to a theme park "every chance they can get". A day at the theme park for a family of 4 can get pretty steep. A ticket at Six Flags is at least $35-40 per person. That's $140-160 for a family of four right there. Not to mention the snacks and souvineers they may be buying. Life happens and peopel could be spending that money doing other things if bills and life get in the way. Think of it like this, how many people who live in Orlando go to Disney World every chance they can get? Not retirees or snowbirds, but people who live day-to-day lives that have little things like rents or mortgages or car notes, insurance, college tuition, etc to worry about.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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Me understanding it is easy, but YOU understanding that it CAN be updated and fixed 10 times better to prevent a flood, is the hard part. You do realize they are doing this in NewOrleans as we speak?
I CAN renovate my house, add 10,000 square feet, and make it 10 times better, but that doesn't mean I can afford it! Do you think it's free to build levees? The last estimate released for new levees is $206 MILLION. You have that kind of chump change lying around? You must have a money tree in your backyard...

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while in the back of their minds a potential flood is coming, right?
I would be willing to bet that my 6-year-old daughter can comprehend better than you can...
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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a minute ago you wanted Jackson to be "weird". well Gays kissing in public is weird no doubt. why the long face now?

oh it's a LOT of gays in Austin.
You are mixing me up with someone else. I didn't say I want Jackson to be weird. I didn't even offer an opinion on gays kissing. Reread my posts.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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ReREAD my posts.
OneJackson, focus on the bold part. It will help out your points, as well as others, and hopefully keep the flow of discussion from turning into an intangible mess.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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It would be nice to see the two-lakes proposal come through, but it needs to be reworked. They had an article about it on the news here about how it would have a negative affect on everything from the south South Mississippi to the New Orleans area. If they work this out it will be the perfect place to develop in the area.

As far as the rest of this thread, I can kind of agree with a little on both sides of the argument.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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It would be nice to see the two-lakes proposal come through, but it needs to be reworked. They had an article about it on the news here about how it would have a negative affect on everything from the south of Jackson to the New Orleans area. If they work this out it will be the perfect place to develop in the area.
The biggest problem with the Two Lakes concept is that the local news media won't report the story! Or if they do, they only tell what they want about it... The local alternative paper reports on it quite a bit, but they have been against it from day one, yet they don't seem to report what the developers are doing to make the project work. From what I know, there are two options on the board [Two Lakes vs. Levees] and neither of them in their current form are good options. Levees will do nothing for economic development yet they will require over $200 million, which FEMA is hesitant to help out with due to the levees failing in New Orleans. Two Lakes would be great for economic development, but it also has financing issues as well as a possible environmental impact. We need a new, viable option.
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