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Old 03-13-2010, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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Good decision by the Itawamba County School Board.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society" (Aristotle)
Many scholars point out evidence that Aristotle, as were many of the ancient Greeks, would be considered pedophiles by today's standards. Most who study ancient Greece claim unequivocally that the evidence clearly shows people like Aristotle was, at the very least, bisexual. Upper classes, men like Aristotle and his teacher and likely once his homosexual lover, Plato, routinely initiated young boys from subordinate castes through sexualized rituals of group masturbation and sodomy. They had sex with women merely for conception purposes.

The Romans produced an even more homoerotic society, which was torn asunder by heterosexual Gauls, Visigoths, and other groups considered "barbarians" at the time.

Many Native American nations (or the pejorative "tribes") routinely practiced group sodomy rituals, especially before hunting parties. Not all Native Americans, but many. The European adventurers, and in particular the French missionaries, found this behavior quite surprising. It formed the raison d'etre for the French and other Europeans' to forbid Indian rituals.

This is rather surprising considering the sexual practices of many European monarchs at the time of "discovery." Also when considering the practices of Catholic clerics in France, Spain, Britain (before 1500), Germany, Portugal, Holland, and Italy.

Homosexuality has always been around. It's probably never going to go away regardless of how many people find it less than "normal."

 
Old 03-13-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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And, i'm sure that 99% of people would agree with you that the ACLU takes up left wing causes 50% of the time, and right wing causes 50% of the time, uh huh
Hey Savage, I'm sorry I called you a blind partisan hack. I should have respected your views. If I knew where you lived, I would buy you some beer and we could talk about about all the hell we've raised as young kids. Sorry. God Bless.
 
Old 03-13-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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No worries, agree to disagree. I think this whole thing is entirely blown out of proportion. The real issue of the matter is whether you agree or disagree with the school board's decision. If you agree, then fine, if you don't agree, and live in that area, then vote them out. Other than that, I don't see what churning the pot or insulting people that have no vested interested in the matter at hand accomplishes. That's all.
 
Old 03-15-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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Many scholars point out evidence that Aristotle, as were many of the ancient Greeks, would be considered pedophiles by today's standards. Most who study ancient Greece claim unequivocally that the evidence clearly shows people like Aristotle was, at the very least, bisexual. Upper classes, men like Aristotle and his teacher and likely once his homosexual lover, Plato, routinely initiated young boys from subordinate castes through sexualized rituals of group masturbation and sodomy. They had sex with women merely for conception purposes.

The Romans produced an even more homoerotic society, which was torn asunder by heterosexual Gauls, Visigoths, and other groups considered "barbarians" at the time.

Many Native American nations (or the pejorative "tribes") routinely practiced group sodomy rituals, especially before hunting parties. Not all Native Americans, but many. The European adventurers, and in particular the French missionaries, found this behavior quite surprising. It formed the raison d'etre for the French and other Europeans' to forbid Indian rituals.

This is rather surprising considering the sexual practices of many European monarchs at the time of "discovery." Also when considering the practices of Catholic clerics in France, Spain, Britain (before 1500), Germany, Portugal, Holland, and Italy.

Homosexuality has always been around. It's probably never going to go away regardless of how many people find it less than "normal."
Good point countering that quote, when it's debatable if Aristotle even said it at all. I often find it on sites where people use it to justify their own prejudices though.




"No, this looks like a classic example of fake attribution to add weight to a modern statement - in this case, an anti-liberal slogan circulating on the right-wing / religious web circuit.

It appears in a number of variants, such as "Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society", but a thorough look in Google Books finds nothing even like it in any works of Aristotle."


The "tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society" version seems to be attributed to the modern evangelical minister D James Kennedy.

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The New Tolerance | Christianpost.com

 
Old 03-15-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Hummmmmm, well, it could be worse, you could be in alabama.
 
Old 03-15-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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The school board just washed their hands of the whole matter....believe it or not you do not have the right to a prom...also did anyone consider that they saved this girl a statutory rape conviction for taking a 15 year old to prom when she is 18...
 
Old 03-15-2010, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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The school board just washed their hands of the whole matter....believe it or not you do not have the right to a prom...also did anyone consider that they saved this girl a statutory rape conviction for taking a 15 year old to prom when she is 18...
How would escorting one on a date be considered rape without any evidence of sexual intercourse? Moreover, I believe the age of consent in Mississippi is 15.
 
Old 03-16-2010, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I work in Fulton, with the parents of two seniors who attend school at IAHS. I am so disappointed to see the posts by people who read a liberal-biased media story, then agree with it point by point, so you can seem the enlightened and reformed Mississippi native.
This is isnt about a child who cant do what she wants (there is no girlfriend), it's about an organized effort to inflict a foreign set of humanist values on an extremely conservative Appalachian community. The only thing that is "backward" is that its such a Mayberry -type place that it still had a school sponsored prom; surrounding school districts privatized these events by handing them over to parents years ago.
 
Old 03-16-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I work in Fulton, with the parents of two seniors who attend school at IAHS. I am so disappointed to see the posts by people who read a liberal-biased media story, then agree with it point by point, so you can seem the enlightened and reformed Mississippi native.
This is isnt about a child who cant do what she wants (there is no girlfriend), it's about an organized effort to inflict a foreign set of humanist values on an extremely conservative Appalachian community. The only thing that is "backward" is that its such a Mayberry -type place that it still had a school sponsored prom; surrounding school districts privatized these events by handing them over to parents years ago.
This really should have nothing to do with conservative or liberal ideology, this is about school sponsored bigotry plain and simple.
 
Old 03-16-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: The South
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this is about school sponsored bigotry plain and simple.
Kind of like this thread? and it ain't Mississippi.

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