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Old 06-04-2009, 07:15 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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being a California city. They just passed a law making it illegal to talk on your cell while driving and a bigger no-no to text. While I agree that you shouldn't text while driving you can't even use a hands free device now. What's really disturbing is it's up to the officer to decide if you're texting or just looking at your phone.
If they "think" you're texting you can be pulled over and cited just for that but if you're talking they have to have another reason then cite you for talking (like it's hard to invent a reason) and the fines are insane.
Both are misdemeanors with the usual $100-$500 fine for first offense and cannot be waived or reduced.
Safety or revenue generation?
You decide...
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Montana
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I believe it is a growing problem that needs addressed. But I am not sure I will go with the making it law part. When following cars that are weaving all over their lane, we have noticed it it often due to the driver texting. I am guilty of talking on the phone while driving but I tried texting and I soon seen I was not that talented and it was too distracting. So I pull over to text now or wait till I am parked.

Tough call and I am kinda on the fence here, $100 dollar fine is cheap for preventing an accedent, injury or worse. But I sure don't think we need more laws at all!! So, I am against the new law and I think they should site the drivers for failure to maintain controll or wreckless driving. But only if they are indeed driving in an unsafe manner. These laws are all ready there and can be used. This would also eliminate the question of if the driver was actually using the phone.

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Old 06-04-2009, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Missoula,MT
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I'm all for it, my favorite bumper sticker is "Shut up and get off the damn phone" I cant count the number of times i have been cut off, or turned in front of because some retard is to buisy talking on the phone. Come on do we think we are that important that we cant wait till we get some where, or pull over to talk? Freakin cell phones while a evil necessity are a down fall to society. We use to actualy socialise, now days its all cell phone.. Personly while i own one and have for many years, i hate the dang things.
I say make the laws stronger. If you are driving, Drive, espicaly in town.
But thats ok, with the global melt down, and all the other stuff going on in the world and solar system, they may not be a problem much longer. May have to go back to smoke signals. *lol*
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I'm all for it, my favorite bumper sticker is "Shut up and get off the damn phone" I cant count the number of times i have been cut off, or turned in front of because some retard is to buisy talking on the phone. Come on do we think we are that important that we cant wait till we get some where, or pull over to talk? Freakin cell phones while a evil necessity are a down fall to society. We use to actualy socialise, now days its all cell phone.. Personly while i own one and have for many years, i hate the dang things.
I say make the laws stronger. If you are driving, Drive, espicaly in town.
But thats ok, with the global melt down, and all the other stuff going on in the world and solar system, they may not be a problem much longer. May have to go back to smoke signals. *lol*
It's also distracting to eat,read,put on makeup,comb hair,talk to the person in the back seat,look for an address etc but there's no specific law for that either. Can people talking/texting be a hazard? Yep sure can. Do we need more laws? Nope as stated above current careless driving laws would cover it. Is it a $100 to $500 offense? Nope.
First offense if there's to be a law at all (unless you cause an accident) should be like a seat belt $25, no points and not on your record with an escallation for further offenses.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Montana
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Another government intrusion IMO. I think there is a difference between governing and babysitting.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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It will do nothing to curb the problem. It's only a way of milking money out of people. They passed the same law here in Washington state a couple years ago. There are just as many people talking on phones now as there ever was.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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The fine is too low - triple it for 1st offense. And, bring back the red-light cameras.

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Old 06-04-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: SCBC
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"eat,read,put on makeup,comb hair,talk to the person in the back seat,look for an address"

Because we have been doing that stuff since cars were invented. Anything that is relatively new that we are doing is gonna get bashed. People have only been using cell phones for a little more than a decade now, so the MEDIA jumps on cell phones causing the problems. IMO, there are too many STUPID people with DL's!

I blame the media, plain and simple. Cities and states feel pressured by the media to do "something" to shut them up. Again, IMO the media is the reason we have so many stupid laws in the US.

I absolutely agree that there is ZERO difference in talking on a cell phone or eating or putting on makeup while driving. Should you do it? Probably not. Some people don't have any problem doing it. It's the stupid people, who one way or another are probably gonna get in an accident anyways, regardless of what they are doing, just because they are oblivious!
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:44 AM
 
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It's unfortunate this law needs to exist solely for those who lack common sense enough to realize how dangerous it is to text and hold the cell in one hand while driving. My husband was hit by a driver on their cell. So I guess I'm *for* this one.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It's unfortunate this law needs to exist solely for those who lack common sense enough to realize how dangerous it is to text and hold the cell in one hand while driving. My husband was hit by a driver on their cell. So I guess I'm *for* this one.
The problem is this law may or may not have saved your husband from being hit (sorry that happened btw and hope he didn't get hurt) as people will still do it only try to hide it making things worse. As has been said before, there's already laws on the books to deal with it without giving the cops more authority and causing the public more money they don't have (fighting bad tickets).
I wouldn't have much of a problem if they had said "we are tired of accidents caused by distraction and in that vein if you're involved in an accident your cell phone records will be looked at and if you were on the phone then you will be cited as a distracted driver and possibly be judged either partially or fully at fault".
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