Regards to MO being a Confederate state and Southern.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

I think the upland South and upper South elements are fairly strong in Bates County and the surrounding counties, just as much as the Midwest elements.

I don't agree, but you're entitled to your opinion. Regardless, the southern elements don't start dominating until around or to the south of Joplin.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by borderofdixie

Actually our summer temps here in Missouri are warmer than Cinci and Maryland. In the winter Stl averages are warmer than Indy, Cinci.

Our summer weather is hotter than Maryland.

Our summers in Missouri are generally worse than to our east.

Ironic the new average highs/lows that came out this year our warmest average high went down one degree and is now 89 in the summer.

STL is not much warmer than either Cincy or Indy in the winter, not enough to make that significant of a difference.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by bigblueblues

Actually INDY is much cooler in the winter and summer than Stl. 4 degrees is a pretty big difference.

These are the new averages that came out this year and most places are warmer. INDY is quite cooler than Stl. Especially in the summer. Indy is also further north than Stl and latitude. INDY winters would be too cold for me!

Stl averages are actually pretty close to Louisvilles now. However Louisville is pretty close in latitude to St. Louis.

National Weather Service Climate


http://nowdata.rcc-acis.org/IND/pubACIS_results

http://nowdata.rcc-acis.org/IND/pubACIS_results

Much cooler? Stop providing me with sources I've seen before, and stop acting as though the differences are gigantic. 4 degrees is not a mind-boggling difference. If you honestly believe that, and Indy's winters would be too cold for you, then STL's winters should be too cold as well. FYI, KC's winters are about the same as Indy's. As far as summer goes, again, Indy gets pretty hot and humid in the summer, just not as hot as STL...temperatures in the upper 80s and lower 90s, with heat indices above 100, are far from unheard of Indy. Indy's winters freeze and thaw with about the same frequency as STL, with only a few more inches of snowfall per winter. You are overstating the differences dramatically...they are correct, but the difference is not that great. And please, as far as being further north, we're only talking about a little bit over 80 miles to the north. Again, not a huge difference in latitude. For the record, at least prior to 2010, STL's winter averages were quite similar to Columbus, at least in January. Now that they've changed it to from 1980-2010, it's a bit higher, but every 30 years needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I prefer to look at the entire time since temperatures have been recorded.

[Old Trafford]

Originally Posted by kshe95girl

So, you're basing your opinion from what one person said?
Right.

With as many times as this kid has been kicked out you think he would have got the message by now.

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by Old Trafford

With as many times as this kid has been kicked out you think he would have got the message by now.

Aint that the doggone truth!
I really think this thread should just be closed.

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by stlouisan

Something else to note, however, is that all types of crops grown and required by slavery have been banished to the far southeastern parts of the state. This area was never meant for plantation culture...it was meant for soybeans, wheat, sorghum, corn, and other Midwest staple crops. Cotton, tobacco, and hemp are long gone.

Not to mention that most of that area was a vast swamp, and was not deforested and drained until the early 20th century.