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Old 07-17-2007, 09:03 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Hey there, Lake Junkie! :--) Thanks for the kind words and for affirming what I wrote in my post! I was trying to go easy on the anti-growth folks who want our roads to get in such awful shape here that we would be forced to ride a rail system that doesn't take you where you need to go when you need to get there! You know, to get an idea of the utter knuckleheadness of the powers that be in California, check out this Orange County Register editorial Opinion: The ethanol fleet that wasn't | ethanol, state, percent - OCRegister.com that exposes how we frittered away over $17 million on flex-fuel cars designed to run on ethanol, and how they've been driven a combined 10 million miles using nothing but conventional gasoline. Brilliant. OC Register senior editorial writer Steven Greenhut writes upon this and other boondoggles in this column Opinion: The lure of other people's money | city, people, spending - OCRegister.com (http://www.ocregister.com/column/city-people-spending-1766546-council-grove - broken link).

Examples Missourians from Gov. Matt Blunt on down should use on how NOT to manage a state! And California's Attorney General Jerry Brown suing our auto manufacturers for contributing to global warming (which is most likely not caused by man)....what can I say? Our state government is very much like a foreign country unto itself.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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well I have to say my boyfriend and I have ventured to MO 2 times so far and have been around the Jefferson City area... along with Osage Co. and let me tell you... your backwoods roads are better than the road I live on hear in NY... my road now is still DIRT.. with MEGA pot/sink holes!! I give Missouri roads a 9 ... come on you have about 5 people on a 30 mile road... and you still don't have potholes and junk!
nice job MO... were sold!
~Tori~
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Finally escaped The People's Republic of California
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I drove for a living all over so CA for about 27 years and I personally have no issues with the roads themselves.
Hey Jammer, Er I mean m15A whatever....
Bro, you musta been traveling in SoCAL, cause if you was in NorCal you'd know what I was talkin about....

Maybee SoCAl takes all the hiway $$$ just like they steal the water....
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:28 PM
 
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Hey Jammer, Er I mean m15A whatever....
Bro, you musta been traveling in SoCAL, cause if you was in NorCal you'd know what I was talkin about....

Maybee SoCAl takes all the hiway $$$ just like they steal the water....
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I drove for a living all over so CA for about 27 years and I personally have no issues with the roads themselves. Now the traffic, garbage and weeds on the sides of the roads are a whole different discussion. That right there is the glaring difference for me as far as CA vs MO highways. From what I have seen here in the great state of MO the roadways are kept up in fairly good fashion so no complains so far from this yeahoo!


Yep, I was only talking about the south end of that big ole state!! Man they should have cut CA in half years ago because it truly is two different ball games. The issues regarding water deliveries to the southern part of the state are going to become very contentious in the next five-ten years and it is gonna get fugly.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Finally escaped The People's Republic of California
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Man they should have cut CA in half years ago because it truly is two different ball games. The issues regarding water deliveries to the southern part of the state are going to become very contentious in the next five-ten years and it is gonna get fugly.
The north would vote to seperate in a minute, however the south with all those people would never let us go.. If they did they would all die of thirst, cause first thing we'd do is stop the pumps....
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:45 PM
 
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The north would vote to seperate in a minute, however the south with all those people would never let us go.. If they did they would all die of thirst, cause first thing we'd do is stop the pumps....
wouldn't blame ya'll one little ole bit
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:54 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I truly am intrigued to learn all this new stuff I never knew before about California's roads, but for the sake of relevancy can we stick to Missouri please? No hostility here...just trying to make sure the responses stay relevant to the topic and state at hand.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:21 PM
 
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I truly am intrigued to learn all this new stuff I never knew before about California's roads, but for the sake of relevancy can we stick to Missouri please? No hostility here...just trying to make sure the responses stay relevant to the topic and state at hand.
yeah so anyway what does everyone think about the roads in say hmmmm Arizona on the way to MO??


point being ...lighten up kid and roll with it huh
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Branson-Hollister-Kimberling City-Blue Eye-Ridgedale
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Cool On the road again...

I think there's a lot of relevance to talking about the roads in other states...how else would we know "by comparison" whether Missouri has good or bad?
I've only driven long distance a few times...on the trip out from CA in the big U Haul...and I turned around & flew back to drive my lil sis's Ryder a coupla months later...and one automobile road trip (skip that if you can...) and then my wild move from Spfld to upstate NY...and back...through Ill, Ohio (horrible freeways when I was there) Pa & most of NY.
I was always glad to be back in MO...the minute you cross the border the roads were like heaven...
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Moved to town. Miss 'my' woods and critters.
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I think there's a lot of relevance to talking about the roads in other states...how else would we know "by comparison" whether Missouri has good or bad?
I've only driven long distance a few times...on the trip out from CA in the big U Haul...and I turned around & flew back to drive my lil sis's Ryder a coupla months later...and one automobile road trip (skip that if you can...) and then my wild move from Spfld to upstate NY...and back...through Ill, Ohio (horrible freeways when I was there) Pa & most of NY.
I was always glad to be back in MO...the minute you cross the border the roads were like heaven...
This past month I had the 'pleasure' of driving in 12 states within 13 days. Mostly east and south. Missouri roads outside of the big cities, are for the most part, quite good. I liked Kentucky roads (highways) a lot. Beautiful state, by the way. I do wish that our fair state would find the funds to do away with all of the gravel roads as some states have done.

I really think our roads are pretty good overall. Just have to know ahead of time where you are going to stay away from the so-called back roads. Would like to see wider shoulders on major highways at least. And for heaven's sake would also appreciate big trucks having to use the far right lanes only, as some forward thinking states have done.
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