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Old 07-22-2007, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Fontana, California
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Does the snow in Farmington ever get above 4 inches?
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:46 AM
 
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I remember snowfalls in the 12-18" range when I was a kid living near Farmington. A 6" snow fall is common once or twice a year but thanks
to GW that doesn't happen as often as it used to.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Southwest Missouri
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Does the snow in Farmington ever get above 4 inches?
To answer your question, yes.

We don't get a lot of snow here in MO, but in an average year you'll get a couple of snowfalls that exceed 4" (maybe 4-8" avg).
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:20 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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To answer your question, yes.
We don't get a lot of snow here in MO, but in an average year you'll get a couple of snowfalls that exceed 4" (maybe 4-8" avg).
Today, due to global warming largely, the Southern parts of Missouri do not get much snow. I'm surprised that Southwest Missouri even gets 4 inches now...last year I noticed was crazy...I noticed it got 13 or 15 inches...that's A LOT for that far south today. My dad grew up in Joplin and he basically said that snowfall occured enough there that it was not "incredible" when it happened...he actually said he grew up with the kind of winter Joplin had this year. This was around 40 or 50 years ago, so again, climate has changed considerably since then. Central and Northern Missouri generally still get a decent amount of snow...between 10 and 20 inches typically, it varies from season to season. 2004 was 21 inches for St. Louis, which is closer to the historic averages...but yes, due to global warming Missouri is getting much less snow than it used to. 20 years ago, as someone mentioned earlier, Farmington was capable of making double digits for snow. The latitude of St. Louis and mid-Missouri is around the southernmost point in Missouri today I'd say where snowfall occurs enough that it is not uncommon. Go 60-70 miles south to Farmington and you don't get much snow at all. 20 years ago would be a whole different story. this is why I hate global warming. Snowfall 20 years ago was much less uncommon throughout the whole state than now...average snowfall now is around 6 to 10 inches less than when I was a toddler. Whatever happened to the old Missouri winters?

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Old 07-23-2007, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest Missouri
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Today, due to global warming largely, the Southern parts of Missouri do not get much snow. I'm surprised that Southwest Missouri even gets 4 inches now...last year I noticed was crazy...I noticed it got 13 or 15 inches...that's A LOT for that far south today.
Since this isn't a political forum, I won't really get into the issue of global warming. I'll just say that global warming is a popular "theory" that Hollywood and the media have picked up on that has absolutely no scientific evidence to support it. Climate change has come in cycles, long before Al Gore invented the internet.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Since this isn't a political forum, I won't really get into the issue of global warming. I'll just say that global warming is a popular "theory" that Hollywood and the media have picked up on that has absolutely no scientific evidence to support it. Climate change has come in cycles, long before Al Gore invented the internet.
Well, if this is in fact a routine cycle the climate is going through, it is truly unprecedented. Global warming is not a theory...it is pretty much a fact now...it was known about long before Gore ever came out with his internet message. Scientist have had almost a decade to research this...if global warming is still a theory, then obviously our scientists suck at their jobs
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Southwest Missouri
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Well, if this is in fact a routine cycle the climate is going through, it is truly unprecedented. Global warming is not a theory...it is pretty much a fact now...it was known about long before Gore ever came out with his internet message. Scientist have had almost a decade to research this...if global warming is still a theory, then obviously our scientists suck at their jobs
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a debate about scientific theories. There are plenty of other forums where such debates rage on daily.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:36 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a debate about scientific theories. There are plenty of other forums where such debates rage on daily.
Fair enough.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:35 PM
 
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If anyone wants to check, the snowfall in St. Louis and Columbia MO from 1900 has not changed that much in total amount. In 1919 it was only 4 -5 inches. Same for 1921. In 1978 in was about 55 inches and the depth has ranged from the 4 inches to more throughout the last 100 years. I do not subscribe to the 'global warming' theory/fact. What information that I have read concerning this subject has led me to believe that the earth has experienced many changes throughout recorded history that may lead one to believe in cycles for weather, etc. I am NOT making any statement(s) ref. any warming or colding of the earth. But yes, Joplin has had more than 4 inches of snow in the past according to NOAA.

Uhhh, methinks me meant Farmington. Sorry 'bout that. Thinking cap is on rather crooked this eve.

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Old 07-26-2007, 01:43 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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If anyone wants to check, the snowfall in St. Louis and Columbia MO from 1900 has not changed that much in total amount. In 1919 it was only 4 -5 inches. Same for 1921. In 1978 in was about 55 inches and the depth has ranged from the 4 inches to more throughout the last 100 years. I do not subscribe to the 'global warming' theory/fact. What information that I have read concerning this subject has led me to believe that the earth has experienced many changes throughout recorded history that may lead one to believe in cycles for weather, etc. I am NOT making any statement(s) ref. any warming or colding of the earth. But yes, Joplin has had more than 4 inches of snow in the past according to NOAA.

Uhhh, methinks me meant Farmington. Sorry 'bout that. Thinking cap is on rather crooked this eve.
4 to 5 inches is a ridiculously low and uncommon amount for either St. Louis and Columbia to get. But then again, so is 55 inches...but the historic average says the whole thing about St. Louis. St. Louis has struggled to get snow around the historic average lately...could be for its variety of winters...but for the past few it has not averaged 22.5 inches of snowfall. But the simple fact is yes, while they are getting a few less inches, not having changed that much in total amount, the historic average for St. Louis and Columbia is around 22 to 23 inches. I remember as a little kid how much more cold and snowy the winters were here compared to now. There has been a change, trust me. I built snowmen a few times every winter in St. Louis during my days as a youngster. Now I am lucky to be able to manage it more than once. Snow used to fall in greater quantities here, although snowstorms bringing up to a half a foot of snow are generally observed once or twice every winter here. Joplin and Springfield are capable of getting snow in decent amounts as is Oklahoma. Snow I've noticed often originates in New Mexico, spreads northeast throughout Oklahoma, then essentially follows the I-44 corridor northeast to St. Louis, scraping Northwestern Arkansas as it does so, and continues to head northeast from there.
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