Updated Missouri map of Midwest/South/ transitional zones (Kansas City, St. Louis: houses, association)

[BluesWinCup]

Originally Posted by kshe95girl

Dixie doesnt live there, ya gotta go a bit south, sweetie.

In a post in the past, and in PM you said at Cherokee pass in Madison county it becomes pretty much southern all at once.

I am not down there much ever, but others have said it here, and myself, but you can begin to feel the transition feel, Ozarks in St. Francois county in places like Bonne Terre, and In Farmington. Just look at ancestory as well. Still leans midwestern, but the transition zone feel is there. Sorta like southern indiana. A number of people I deal with from Farmington area of work also do have an accent as well that seems typical in the Ozarks as you head south. It's neat how you can go a short distance east and you feel very midwestern in Ste Gen, and Perryville, but head west and it's totally different.

[aragx6]

Bonne Terre and Farmington are pure midwest. Nothing transitional about them.

[BluesWinCup]

Originally Posted by aragx6

Bonne Terre and Farmington are pure midwest. Nothing transitional about them.

Its mostly midwestern, but its not totally midwestern. I will disagree with you on that.

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by BluesWinCup

Its mostly midwestern, but its not totally midwestern. I will disagree with you on that.

Of course you will onegoal. B-A-N-N-E-D A-G-A-I-N!

[aragx6]

I did like his handle though ...

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

Of course you will onegoal. B-A-N-N-E-D A-G-A-I-N!

I think that was a record.
Yay mods!

[Curmudgeon]

Phooey! Yer either a Ozarker or yur not! That's enough of a division.

[mike0421]

Ok, I guess I am missing something here about the C-D Missouri board culture. I was thoughtfully considering the boundaries of the map the OP had put together, and the associated suppositions, but it seems as though the poster was not well-intentioned. I am absolutely fascinated by cultural maps, and I was wondering why the map specifically sub-categorized St. Louis, but not Kansas City? Or, why there is a 'jog' in the orange, jutting north, on US-67? I actually drove that road to Taum Sauk Mountain in the winter, and was intently studying whether or not there was a transition to more southern vs mid-western.

I have a lot to learn about this state.

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by mike0421

Ok, I guess I am missing something here about the C-D Missouri board culture. I was thoughtfully considering the boundaries of the map the OP had put together, and the associated suppositions, but it seems as though the poster was not well-intentioned. I am absolutely fascinated by cultural maps, and I was wondering why the map specifically sub-categorized St. Louis, but not Kansas City? Or, why there is a 'jog' in the orange, jutting north, on US-67? I actually drove that road to Taum Sauk Mountain in the winter, and was intently studying whether or not there was a transition to more southern vs mid-western.

I have a lot to learn about this state.

The poster's problem is that he tries to tie the cultural discussion in with the Civil War & then revises history to his liking. But I'm with you I think the cultural topic is pretty neat.

The St. Louis thing probably comes from the fact that it has a very unique history compared to the rest of Missouri. The US 67 thing is complicated but the map has it too far north anyway. It should probably go through the Fredericktown area.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

The poster's problem is that he tries to tie the cultural discussion in with the Civil War & then revises history to his liking. But I'm with you I think the cultural topic is pretty neat.

The St. Louis thing probably comes from the fact that it has a very unique history compared to the rest of Missouri. The US 67 thing is complicated but the map has it too far north anyway. It should probably go through the Fredericktown area.

Having done the drive to Mount Taum Sak myself I'd have to agree about Fredericktown. We did that to St. Louis and back in a day..it was only 100 miles each way, but it felt like we'd driven 1000 miles just by the change in scenery...actually felt very uncomfortable in the towns around Mount Taum Sak...definitely a "good ol' boy" area for sure...and no, i don't believe you have to be southern to be called that term. The poverty that I saw was bad even by the standard rural Ozarks...i guess that's why they call that area the heart of the Ozarks.