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Old 08-29-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Eggs-zackley. How did either of these people wind up as candidates? I would say that it is because voters really don't pay enough attention when it comes to elections. Not to change the subject, but Romney and Obama both lie about each other and there is very little outrage when the lies are exposed. We have only ourselves to blame for having a paucity of good candidates who deserve our respect. They lie and cheat because, well, they can.
All McCaskill did was screw up on paying some taxes on her airplane and that was bad advice from her tax people. That is not corruption at all. Seems that some around here would like to she her legitimately raped.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Why is it that St. Louis and Kansas City are overwhelmingly Democratic while the rest of the state leans Republican? I know MO's black community is concentrated in StL and KC, but that can't be the only reason.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Missouri Ozarks
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Why is it that St. Louis and Kansas City are overwhelmingly Democratic while the rest of the state leans Republican? I know MO's black community is concentrated in StL and KC, but that can't be the only reason.
Just like many other states. Rural areas are usually more conservative than urban areas. Democrat areas in MO would be the two major cities, Columbia (The university is a huge part of that town), part of the Mississippi Hills region (Where mining was/is important) and a few counties in the Bootheel (Part of the Mississippi Delta). You have to remember though that often in rural areas Democrat doesn't equal liberal.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Missouri still has a strong blue dog Democrat voting component. This is ESPECIALLY true in times like these when wages continue to be cut across the board for all types of positions as well as benefits. Real wages, when adjusted for inflation, have fallen in most areas of Missouri just like many other parts of the country over the last several decades.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: 38 38' 45" N, -90 20' 08" W
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I find something interesting as well as it pertains to MO voting patterns: religious affiliation. I learned from the poster "Kshegirl95" that in some of the rural counties south of St.Louis, for instance, St. Genevieve County, that the entire county government is controlled by Democrats. Jefferson County, an outer suburb of St. Louis to the north, is slightly less Democratic. My point is that these counties are inhabited by Catholics as a majority religion. I am wondering if the Catholic religion, generally speaking, trends more Democratic when it comes to fiscal affiliation (i.e. wealth redistribution in the form of higher taxes on the wealthy). I have always maintained this is the single pivotal issue that defines most levels of politics.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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Why is it that St. Louis and Kansas City are overwhelmingly Democratic while the rest of the state leans Republican? I know MO's black community is concentrated in StL and KC, but that can't be the only reason.
Uninformed low information that get their information from the TV or the bar. And the Republican machine is very good with pointing fingers and vilifying people and groups. Plus a bunch of them are just plain racists. Grew up here and live here and i see it daily.

Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult

Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some "other," who is Subversives. deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: Commies. Socialists. Ragheads. Secular humanists. Blacks. Fags. Feminazis. The list may change with the political needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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Not living in MO, I feel I have no business trying to tell anyone from the state how to vote and for those posting here, that are also not from MO (which I think are many) you might do the same. The diicision on who to vote for and why, should be left to the people of that state...

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Did you send this memo to the Koch Brothers? Karl Rove? Grover Norquist?
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I find something interesting as well as it pertains to MO voting patterns: religious affiliation. I learned from the poster "Kshegirl95" that in some of the rural counties south of St.Louis, for instance, St. Genevieve County, that the entire county government is controlled by Democrats. Jefferson County, an outer suburb of St. Louis to the north, is slightly less Democratic. My point is that these counties are inhabited by Catholics as a majority religion. I am wondering if the Catholic religion, generally speaking, trends more Democratic when it comes to fiscal affiliation (i.e. wealth redistribution in the form of higher taxes on the wealthy). I have always maintained this is the single pivotal issue that defines most levels of politics.
The Catholic vote tends to trend democratic but will swing Republican at times. In fact, there is a chart that shows the historical catholic vote over time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholi..._United_States

It will be interesting to see what happens this go round.

I'm catholic and have catholic relatives in Iowa and Wisconsin who are as liberal as can be. I suspect their views are a bit different than many of the catholics in some of the more rural counties South of the St. Louis area.
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: 38 38' 45" N, -90 20' 08" W
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The Catholic vote tends to trend democratic but will swing Republican at times. In fact, there is a chart that shows the historical catholic vote over time:

Catholic Church and politics in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It will be interesting to see what happens this go round.

I'm catholic and have catholic relatives in Iowa and Wisconsin who are as liberal as can be. I suspect their views are a bit different than many of the catholics in some of the more rural counties South of the St. Louis area.
Within this construct, MUTGR, it would be even more interesting still to examine voting patterns of Catholics as a whole, versus the sub-group of Latino Catholics. In St. Louis, this may not resonate, but living in southern New Mexico, predominately Democratic, but socially conservative.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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I will preface this commentary by stating that I raised in Alton, IL outside St. Louis and lived there besides Dixon and Rolla MO.

My famlies roots run deep in southern IL and southern MO.

We have seen the dangers and fallout that occurred when Jerry Falwell and the " Moral Majority" entered the bloodstream of the GOP.

The disease ran rampant for years leaving segments of the conservative voting population out in the cold and disenfranchised.

It appears that the GOP has not eradicated this disease as we have seen in Aiken's verbal diarrhea.
Provisions must be set in place in order to eradicate the host organism in order to control and thwart further outbreaks.

Missouri GOP leaders and voters have been done a disservice by Aikens statement and a political death blow by his insistence in remaining in the race.

If this is indicative of the MO GOP mindset then God help the citizens of the Show Me State.
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