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Old 12-10-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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There aren't enough "hard core republicans" to offset the rest, don't worry.

I'm glad somebody trusts obama. The way I see it, he will be more effective at creating a rich and powerful government class while the rest of us are peasants.

You may consider it nonsense but many other do not. As for the so.................. I said it first.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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What is?

a rich and powerful government class
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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What is?

a rich and powerful government class
I already explained it before- the government class = the ruling class = the liberal elitists.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:13 AM
 
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Here's the rest of the story, for today. Stay tuned for further "hidden" costs.

Insured to see $63 annual fee increase to cover pre-existing conditions - LA Daily News
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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I see we have some very dissatisfied individuals. I am not dissatisfied at all. I like the new system. Sure has some major bugs to work out. All big systems like this are constantly changing. You guys can whine all you want it won't go away.

Curmud, you didn't mention this part. Did you miss it?

Obamacare Sleeper Issue - or something you weren't suppose to know about?

FYI..they also got rid of lifetime caps and they can't drop you either.
If you have a chronic illness that is expensive to treat you don't have to worry anymore because you cannot be dropped, there is no cap and you are free to switch insurance companies.

You still might have a sky high premium though.

The sleeper part is the tax. Then again, we knew Obamacare was full of taxes.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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I see we have some very dissatisfied individuals. I am not dissatisfied at all. I like the new system. Sure has some major bugs to work out. All big systems like this are constantly changing. You guys can whine all you want it won't go away.

Curmud, you didn't mention this part. Did you miss it?

Obamacare Sleeper Issue - or something you weren't suppose to know about?

FYI..they also got rid of lifetime caps and they can't drop you either.
If you have a chronic illness that is expensive to treat you don't have to worry anymore because you cannot be dropped, there is no cap and you are free to switch insurance companies.

You still might have a sky high premium though.

The sleeper part is the tax. Then again, we knew Obamacare was full of taxes.
Not sayin' there aren't some good parts. But there are also a lot of "hidden" costs that should have been disclosed in the very beginning by "the most transparent administration" ever and understood before it had to be passed so Congress would know what it voted for (with thanks to Nancy Pelosi) before the fact, not after.

As a retired political and legislative analyst I don't miss a whole lot. I just don't like subterfuge, partisanship and thug politics.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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Like medicare and social security, it will forever be in financial crises. That is how it goes with any federal program regardless of which party is in charge.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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I seem to remember when the supreme court made their ruling on obama care that it was a tax.
but I also remember that same day obama and big sister ,and a great liar, nancy said it wasnt a tax
uh am I missing something.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Not sayin' there aren't some good parts. But there are also a lot of "hidden" costs that should have been disclosed in the very beginning by "the most transparent administration" ever and understood before it had to be passed so Congress would know what it voted for (with thanks to Nancy Pelosi) before the fact, not after.

As a retired political and legislative analyst I don't miss a whole lot. I just don't like subterfuge, partisanship and thug politics.
Surely you must be around a different political system than ours.lol Has been that way since i started voting.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Surely you must be around a different political system than ours.lol Has been that way since i started voting.
Being past my mid-60s I don't think I've missed much and I decidedly have no illusions about governance at any level. It's been far too nasty for far too long.
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