What similarities are there between Missouri and the South? (Washington: neighborhood, college)

[senecaman]

Originally posted by Hazel W
Food? Biscuits and gravy can be found all over the state. Real Southern biscuits and gravy with sausage or bacon, according to your choice. It seems to be a Sunday breakfast at many restaurants.

Love fried chicken and biscuits and chicken fried steak and gravy. All with sweet tea. Love pork sausage with biscuits too. But healthy eating has come even to the south. lol I eat those things much less than I used to which is a good excuse to go to church suppers and family reunions. I just have to hit the gym harder the next day!
BTW curious what the dessert of choice is in Missouri. I would say that the one dessert you see most at a church gathering in Upstate SC is banana pudding. You also have pies, cookies and layer cakes but the pudding is the most popular I think.
One thing that is big here -not sure if you have them or not -is boiled peanuts .Definitely an acquired taste but I love them.
We haven't even mentioned barbeque, but I know that what's good barbeque in one state could be crap in another . I would guess the most popular barbeque style in Upstate SC is pulled pork with one of 2 sauces-a mustard based vinegar sauce and or a tomato based vinegar sauce.

[bayou91]

Originally Posted by senecaman

Originally posted by Hazel W
Food? Biscuits and gravy can be found all over the state. Real Southern biscuits and gravy with sausage or bacon, according to your choice. It seems to be a Sunday breakfast at many restaurants.

Love fried chicken and biscuits and chicken fried steak and gravy. All with sweet tea. Love pork sausage with biscuits too. But healthy eating has come even to the south. lol I eat those things much less than I used to which is a good excuse to go to church suppers and family reunions. I just have to hit the gym harder the next day!
BTW curious what the dessert of choice is in Missouri. I would say that the one dessert you see most at a church gathering in Upstate SC is banana pudding. You also have pies, cookies and layer cakes but the pudding is the most popular I think.
One thing that is big here -not sure if you have them or not -is boiled peanuts .Definitely an acquired taste but I love them.
We haven't even mentioned barbeque, but I know that what's good barbeque in one state could be crap in another . I would guess the most popular barbeque style in Upstate SC is pulled pork with one of 2 sauces-a mustard based vinegar sauce and or a tomato based vinegar sauce.

Idk, seems like pies, cakes, and cookies were the standard desserts no matter where I lived or where I was visiting.

I don't think boiled peanuts are very popular in MO, I didn't really notice them in TN or WV either. I've always thought of them as a lowland southern thing (LA, MS, AL, GA, SC).

BBQ in Missouri is a big deal. I think this past year MO was the third largest pork producing state. I don't remember who was first, probably Iowa.

[senecaman]

What's the best lake for fishing? I have heard the most about Table Rock as far as bass fishing. I don't know much about Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Lake.

In SC we have 11 big lakes, 5 of which are 50,000 acres or more.

Right now the hottest lake is probably Lake Hartwell, which is 56,000 acres and is shared with Georgia. In 2002 the state record striped bass came from Hartwell. Bass and catfish are great too. In 2008 Lake Hartwell was the site of the Bassmaster Classic.
Some images: http://www.hartwelllakeproperties.co...wellAerial.jpg -lake and the dam
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/news/img/striper02.jpg - state record striped bass
http://www.marcomagic.com/hartlmap_corps.gif -lake map

[senecaman]

Originally Posted by bayou91

Idk, seems like pies, cakes, and cookies were the standard desserts no matter where I lived or where I was visiting.

I don't think boiled peanuts are very popular in MO, I didn't really notice them in TN or WV either. I've always thought of them as a lowland southern thing (LA, MS, AL, GA, SC).

BBQ in Missouri is a big deal. I think this past year MO was the third largest pork producing state. I don't remember who was first, probably Iowa.

Makes sense about the boiled peanuts-those states you mentioned and NC are the peanut belt.

As far as bbq are ribs more popular than pulled pork? Lots of joints in SC will have both pulled pork and ribs but overall it's the pulled pork that's most popular. The big divide between the upstate and the lowcountry is that in the upstate pork shoulders are most popular and in the lowcountry whole hog bbq is most popular. Now from what I can see in Tennessee ribs are the big deal. Some time ago I was over in Knoxville for 4 days and I ate at a different rib joint each night. The town is full of them.

[RDM66]

Originally Posted by Hazel W

Whether Missouri is Northern or Southern depends strictly on whom you meet. I think it's an attitude more than fact. Around Kansas City, I found too many still fighting the War Between the States. I've not run into that in St Louis at all.

That's so true. The Kansas City area has a very bloody and unusual Civil War history (unlike any other in the nation). The war wasn't fought here for 4 years. --It lasted almost 20 years (from 1854 to 1875), starting as a border war with the Yankees across the state line in Kansas. The war in Kansas City was fought in 3 stages:

1. A border war with Kansas (1854-1861) (See Bleeding Kansas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
2. The actual Civil War (1861-1865)
3. About 10 years of civil lawlessness, settling grudges and getting revenge. (1865-1875)

The war still has a huge impact on Kansas City's cultural.

[goat314]

Originally Posted by bayou91

I lived in central and northern Florida and I 100% disagree that CFL is any bit southern. Anyone who tells you that central Florida is southern is just trying to cling to the good ol days, I promise. North Florida is not any more southern than Georgia.

I don't know the words to describe Florida because it's legitimately that strange, it's the southern most point of the continental US but it's not truly southern. Go anywhere south of Ocala and you'll lose the "southern vibe" reallll quick.

I suspect there's a reason why people from other southern states rarely move to FL, or at least, that's how it always seemed to me. I rarely met people from TN, NC, GA, LA, etc. who moved to FL. They often visited for the beaches, but I think they were always happy to return to their home state, lol.

I've lived in Tampa, Lakeland, and Jacksonville. The whole state of Florida is Southern. Even Miami has Southern undertones, but the Latin American flare is so overwhelming you don't notice it off hand.

[Hazel W]

Originally Posted by goat314

I've lived in Tampa, Lakeland, and Jacksonville. The whole state of Florida is Southern. Even Miami has Southern undertones, but the Latin American flare is so overwhelming you don't notice it off hand.

My mother - a fourth generation Floridian - moved to Indiana a few years after marrying my father. She used to say "These Yankees use enough sugar in one lemon pie to make six".

Another quote from a Texas friend: "You can tell a Northerner from a Southerner by what they call that war. Northerners say "Civil War". Southerners say "War Between the States".

[nlst]

Missouri is a Midwestern state with Southern influence. THe Southern half of the state may look similar to the south in appearance but this is only a half true. The upper quarter of the southern half of the state is a transition zone between the Midwest and South, while the lower 25% is Southern. The majority of Missouri has more in common with its fellow Midwestern states than with Southern ones. There was a thread about this very topic..."Missouri...Southern or Midwestern?". This is really getting redundant folks. Having visited the South extensively, I can tell you that without a doubt that most of Missouri isn't Southern. It has Southern influences.

[SW Missouri Dave]

Originally Posted by nlst

There was a thread about this very topic..."Missouri...Southern or Midwestern?". This is really getting redundant folks. Having visited the South extensively, I can tell you that without a doubt that most of Missouri isn't Southern. It has Southern influences.

Reduntant, yes. But I find it refreshing that the topic can be discussed amongst those who apparently do not represent a 'cause' or bring an agenda to the table - and therefore can carry on a civil conversation.

Very refreshing.

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by senecaman

What's the best lake for fishing? I have heard the most about Table Rock as far as bass fishing. I don't know much about Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Lake.

In SC we have 11 big lakes, 5 of which are 50,000 acres or more.

Right now the hottest lake is probably Lake Hartwell, which is 56,000 acres and is shared with Georgia. In 2002 the state record striped bass came from Hartwell. Bass and catfish are great too. In 2008 Lake Hartwell was the site of the Bassmaster Classic.
Some images: http://www.hartwelllakeproperties.co...wellAerial.jpg -lake and the dam
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/news/img/striper02.jpg - state record striped bass
http://www.marcomagic.com/hartlmap_corps.gif -lake map

My family always heads down to Kentucky Lake to do some fishing. Everyone always talks about fried catfish, but it doesn't hold a candle to fried crappie.

Originally Posted by senecaman

Just got done watching high school football highlights on the news. My hs got crushed as usual. lol
HS football is a big deal in South Carolina. Is it big in Missouri?

My alma mater is definitely a football school. Almost all of the businesses in town have something showing their support. The town basically shuts down on Friday nights in the fall for home football games. But not every town in Missouri is like that.