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Old 05-04-2008, 06:30 AM
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I am sorry but I did have a little trouble with the formatting but I think I got through it.
YOU:
I will restrict my further comments to the grants listed in your post, and attempt to show that doing a quick search and using the results to support your position does not properly inform the public. It only creates a false impression that grants are numerous, and an easy path to funding local law enforcement services.
ME:
First of all Thank you for your comments. You seem quite well informed on the subject. While we disagree on some things I admire your input. I learn from you and your comments more than you know.
ME:
No one said it was easy, Grant writing is an art, very time consuming, and difficult to establish exactly what grantors will allow. It does NOT attempt to inform the public about all the grants available. In the initial post it said I would do a “10 Second search” on what grants could be found in “10 Seconds” We are going to have to disagree about grants being numerous. I have spent exactly 10 seconds on locating grants. There is no Easy Path in funding law enforcement. That is something “YOU SAID” Not me. In my files I have over 60 grants that I had been working on when I retired. All 60 are available to Reynolds County, and they are already filled out. Many can be cut and pasted or “Replace” used to complete the grants. With this election coming up, I will not give away the farm and post these grants. So you are not mis-informed, I have spent hours, and hours, and then more hours on these grants. It was not easy, It was very Hmmmm, time consuming. I’m not going to say hard, it just took up a lot of my time. In addition, the grants do not “fund law enforcement” as you put it. The county, as you know, funds law enforcement. Grants are often intended to augment existing funds so programs can be started and then most taper off and place the responsibility back on the general fund. Some grants do cover programs in their entirety but not as many as one would think. In your reading of this thread you have come to the idea and decision that I said law enforcement could be grant funded. You have made a pretty big jump from “law enforcement grants should be enhanced as to free up general funds”, to one of “funding local law enforcement services.” From what I see you have taken a single page out of context, and have put words into the post such as “funding local law enforcement services” and “easy path to funding local law enforcement services”. These are terms YOU ADDED, not what I said. And you are right “it does not properly inform the public.”
Please keep things in context. Please do not add statements and then call them mine.

YOU:
Police and Law Enforcement grants section and checked with the program's granting authority website. Please excuse any awkward formatting caused by my 'cutting and pasting'.

The purpose of the Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) program is to award one-year grants directly to fire departments and nonaffiliated emergency medical services.
ME:
Does this county have a county fire department? If not, why not? Are deputies a part of the city FD’s. Officers are normally the first arriving units. If officers were trained and equipped to do some RIT work, natural cross vent, or S&R work prior to fire departments arriving on scene, do you think that it would qualify for some of these grant funds? Even pass through from the fire department? When the bells ring we all go. Maybe we need to encourage a little more cohesive development within emergency services to improve grant funding. Maybe a department of Public Safety? This grant would probably require some creative writing. Possibly some policy changes? That would be exactly what the rest of the country is doing as we speak.
YOU:
Fire and EMS organizations in order to enhance their abilities with respect to fire and fire-related hazards. Our primary goal is to provide assistance to meet fire departments’ and nonaffiliated EMS organizations firefighting and emergency response needs. This program seeks to support organizations that lack the tools and resources necessary to more effectively protect the health and safety of the public and their emergency response personnel with respect to fire and all other hazards.

A "fire department" is defined as an agency or organization that has a formally recognized arrangement with a State, territory, local, or tribal authority (city, county, parish, fire district, township, town, or other governing body) to provide fire suppression to a population within a fixed geographical area on a first-due basis.

A "nonaffiliated EMS organization" is defined as a public or private nonprofit emergency medical services organization that provides direct emergency medical services, including medical transport, to a specific geographic area on a first-due basis but is not affiliated with a hospital and does not serve a geographic area where emergency medical services are adequately provided by a fire department.

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Two examples to show that this grant is known and utilized are given above.
ME:
I did see the awards you listed. I think these are great.
YOU:
Can you describe how this grant could be used by the Reynolds County Sheriff's Department?
ME:
Sure, In the event of a Fire, Explosion, Shooting, Hate Crime, Terrorist incident, Hazardous Materials Incident, or a confined space rescue, (just examples) Officers and deputies will respond to or assist in these areas. Once again, when the bells ring we all go. We are a part of a team that deals with the emergency. Segregating the agencies is a bad idea from the start and almost always eliminates grant funding from agency to agency. However being part of the big picture ENHANCES the process, gets more money that would otherwise be unavailable. Almost everywhere in the west the “BIG THREE” have banned together in order to get money.
Police, Fire, Medical, and now days agencies that provide instructional methodology.
An example of IM would be you teaching what you know. That’s why I said we can not let you leave in the very first post.
The big three are now known, even in small towns now days as, the “XYZ Department of Homeland Security” Notice “public safety” used to be called the XYZ Sheriffs Office, or State Highway Patrol, Now days it is called “XYZ department of homeland security”. All this does is make funds available to the big three in a given area. Nothing more. The department dose not make big changes, the players are the same, maybe a little more training, and minor policy changes. There is no reason why Reynolds County should not have some of the money being given away to others.
YOU:
Law Enforcement Terrorism Prevention Program
LETPP focuses upon the prevention of terrorist attacks and provides law enforcement and public safety communities with funds to support intelligence gathering and information sharing through enhancing/establishing fusion centers; interoperable communications; and collaboration with non-law enforcement partners, other government agencies and the private sector.
The funding priorities for the FY 2007 HSGP reflect the Department’s overall investment strategy, in which two priorities have been paramount: risk-based funding and regional security cooperation.
The Governor of each State has designated a State Administrative Agency (SAA) to apply for and administer the funds under HSGP. The SAA is the only agency eligible to apply for HSGP funds and is responsible for obligating HSGP funds to local units of government and other designated recipients.
This grant may have provided funds to the local area recently. There is no award list given. The Sheriff's Department has had a recent communications upgrade. Verification would have to be obtained from the Sheriff's Department.
ME:
You are right, and the communications area looks pretty darn good, but from what you are telling me all patrol cars are set up with Computers, 800mz radios, VHF radios, cell phones that reach all areas of the service areas, and level 1 and 2 communications along with interactive dash cams, Along with encrypted scrambling capabilities. Please think a little more general in terms of communications. You are eligible, why not? (And I think the term you are looking for with the state receiving money is called “Pass through money”) and that’s OK. Did Reynolds County Apply and receive funds from this grant? If not, Why not?
YOU:
The only program open for application is the Citizen Corps. Application end date is April 28. Grant may have future potential.
Yes I seen that, when I posted these grants many were up against a very short timeline. This grant will come up again. It would be smart to have a grant application completed and ready to go for the next go-around.
This money could be used for CERT teams, High school programs, Citizen Corps, and neighborhood watch, McGruff Programs, etc etc: Should have been done in time.
YOU:
Past use of funds has been focused on interpretability (everyone can communicate with everyone else - compatible radios, etc.) and fingerprint scanners.
ME:
GREAT, I did see your scanners, but much more needs to be done. Interpretability was a huge issue in the west. They installed a “Black Box” (Sorry but that’s all It was known by) it integrated several received frequencies and put us all on the same frequency in an emergency. We got set up for the Olympics and it just stayed that way afterward. Is Reynolds County set up with this? We should be. If elected I will get the specs on the unit and then look at it.
YOU:
Metropolitan Medical Response System (MMRS)
ME:
This money could be used to enhance 2 areas of the county. I will be happy to discuss this on private email but I don’t think it is prudent to discuss vulnerability of an area in Reynolds County in a public forum.

YOU:
Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Program
The Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Program seeks to increase public safety through innovative cross-system collaboration for individuals with mental illness who come into contact with the criminal or juvenile justice systems. The Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA) is seeking joint applications from eligible applicants seeking to plan, implement, or expand an adult or juvenile collaboration program. This program is funded through the Mentally Ill Offender Treatment and Crime Reduction Act of 2004

A grant made under this program may not cover more than 80 percent of the total costs of the project being funded during the first two years of the grant. For Category II (Planning and Implementation), the grant can cover no more than 60 percent of the total costs of the project during the third year. The applicant must identify the source of the non-federal portion of the budget and how match funds will be used. Applicants may satisfy this match requirement with either cash or in-kind services.

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Matching funds required up to 40%.
I suggest reading the document at the link for this grant carefully.
ME:
I did. And I wonder how much time and energy the sheriffs office calls goes into mental health issues? In-Kind Services? It would seem to me if the time and energy was accounted for it would already cover the match? I could be wrong but I think, (Without seeing dispatch records and statistics) the sheriffs office deals with this quite a bit. I do not think it would be hard to come up with IN-KIND AMOUNTS.
YOU:
FCC Rural Health Care Pilot Program
The Commission has exercised its authority under section 254(h)(2)(A) to establish discounts and funding mechanisms for advanced services provided by both telecommunications carriers and non-telecommunications carriers. The pilot program will fund a significant portion of the costs of deploying a dedicated broadband network that connects multiple public and non-profit health care providers, within a state or region, as well as providing the "advanced telecommunications and information services" that ride over that network. Consistent with the mandate provided in section 254(h)(2)(A) and general principles of universal service, all eligible public and non-profit health care providers may apply to participate in the pilot program, but applicants must include in their proposed networks public and non-profit health care providers that serve rural areas.

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I do not see how this relates to funding local law enforcement.
ME:
It may not, however: If we were to bring broadband to the area, o-say for medical communications in the EMS system, Fire first response system for first aid teams, first responder at the sheriffs office level as first aid responders, then it would eliminate some of the costs associated with first responder communications. Let’s say (Example) 800Mz radio trunk system that would allow not only first response personnel the use of the system. That would give broadband availability from your patrol car, Fire truck, or Ambulance. You may or may not be paying for that service. (I am not totally sure the sheriffs office even has broadband but it sure would be nice for another unit in first response arena to pay for it, and you-know, as long as it is there????? It would eliminate the Sheriffs Office from paying for it.
YOU:
Intelligent Transportation Systems [DOT]
Grant Details:Amount: Varies
Application Due Date: April 2008

Description:
The overall objective of the ITS-OTMC Program is to facilitate, in connection with the Congestion Initiative, the operational testing of innovative and aggressive congestion reduction strategies incorporating ITS systems that can demonstrate measurable reductions in congestion levels in the testing areas. In its discretion, the Department may provide up to $100 million over three years through the ITS-OTMC Program which the Department established as part of the ITS Program. In order to support the objectives of the Congestion Initiative, the Department is seeking applications for the operational testing and evaluation of innovative uses of technology to address congestion on a specific facility or facilities, such as a corridor, an urban area or region. Accordingly, qualifying projects must be expected to directly result in significant, broad, and near-term congestion relief. Projects that the Department will consider may include demand management pricing strategies, advanced traffic signal control, innovative incident detection and management strategies, integrated corridor management, parking management tied to transit service, high occupancy/toll (HOT) lanes, managed lanes, ramp control, lane-keeping devices or longitudinal control designed to enhance spatial efficiency on existing highways, precision docking, signal priority systems for buses, no-contact fare collection, real-time travel information (bus arrival times, schedules, emergency information to first-responders, etc.), advanced traveler information systems, parking alerts, or automatic vehicle locator systems. The Department encourages the submission of project proposals that contain technologies which support pricing strategies. Projects that use technology to support and combine congestion mitigation strategies (such as congestion pricing, expansion of transit capacity, and telecommuting) are encouraged. Project applications should demonstrate that proposed strategies will be implemented in a relatively short time frame (e.g., within 12 to 18 months from the date of procurement). The Department will provide up to the statutorily allowable 80 percent share of the estimated costs of an approved project. Funds available for the ITS-OTMC Program are intended to support the implementation costs of the proposed operational testing. Costs of planning, testing, managing, operating, demonstrating, monitoring, evaluating, and reporting are eligible for reimbursement. The Department will evaluate the admittance of proposed costs in accordance with OMB Circular A-87 Cost Principles for State and Local Governments.
YOU:
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Matching funds again.
Traffic congestion in Reynolds County ?
We may want to wait on this one.
ME:
Please read what we could use rather than discarding the whole topic. Why not apply under the following topics? The very worst that could happen is they say no.
Innovative incident detection. Lane-keeping devices. Emergency information to first-responders. Automatic vehicle locator systems and possibly advanced traveler information systems.
YOU:
eCrash Solutions Software Grant
TRACView - Online Traffic Accident Reports
TRACView is pleased to announce 2007 grant funding for TRACView Traffic Accident Solutions. Total funding is available to qualifying public safety agencies nationwide. Grant includes 100% funding for hardware, software, training and installation of software and services. TRACView is being used by over 125 police departments across the United States. Our software reduces your staff workload and makes managing accident reports a simple task. This grant is 100% fully funded by TRACView and requires no match by your agency. Everything you need is provided free of charge. Apply today!

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Anyone see an advertisement here? Click on the link and see if you can find the grant information.
The idea here seems to be that the company provides a free service to the law enforcement agency. The agency then duplicates their efforts by scanning information into the company database. I am sure this is an over-simplification.
Most Missouri Sheriff's Departments do not handle traffic accidents. The Missouri State Highway Patrol does. It is a job function of the MSHP. Most cities handle traffic accidents within their jurisdiction using the state forms and/or software.
Citations written in this county are manageable without using an ECitation system.
ME:
You are right, Like I said in the original post this was a 10 second finger popping search on grants. I have not however listed any grants or foundation work on places like Uncle Sams, The federal register, Perkins, Susan Harwood, etc etc. This was listed on the P1 list. I let P1 know about it. I stand corrected. Please remember with this election I am fielding 20+ emails just like this one per day. (I am not trying to make excuses) I get bad information just like anyone else every now and then.

YOU:
Readiness and Emergency Management for Schools
This grant program is designed to provide funds to LEAs to strengthen and improve their school emergency management plans, at the district and school-building level. Grantees are required to address all four phases of
emergency management: prevention and mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery. In addition, LEAs are required to form partnerships and collaborate with community organizations, local law enforcement agencies, heads of local governments, and offices of public safety, health, and mental health as they review and revise school crisis plans. Plans must be coordinated with state or local homeland security plans and support implementation of the National Incident Management System (NIMS).
Grant funds may be used for the following activities: training school safety teams and students; conducting
building and facilities audits; communicating emergency response policies to parents and guardians; implementing
an Incident Command System (ICS); purchasing school safety equipment (to a limited extent); conducting drills
and tabletop simulation exercises; and preparing and distributing copies of crisis plans.
Local Education Agencies (LEAs)
YOU:
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Local law enforcement agencies may not apply. Collaboration could occur.

Funding currently closed.

“Might be worth mentioning to county school districts”.
ME:
Where it says:’ This grant program is designed to provide funds to LEAs to strengthen and improve their school emergency management plans, and then it goes on. Let me ask? How much money does the sheriffs office spend on school programs? Could the sheriffs office enhance the school programs by assisting schools with this money in school programs? Thus reduce or eliminate the funds being spent in the schools? Maybe bring better, stronger, and more academia to the school programs as it relates to law enforcement? Training students to be deputies? Jailers, Administrative Assistants? Creation of more citizen involved programs that accomplishes safety and law enforcement programs?
Training school safety teams and students,
Conducting building and facilities audits for security,
Communicating emergency response policies to parents and guardians, implementing an Incident Command System (ICS),
Purchasing school safety equipment (to a limited extent,
Conducting drills and tabletop simulation exercises,
Preparing and distributing copies of crisis plans.
Educating and mentoring teachers and officers in emergency situations.
Just because the grant goes to the school does not mean the school is the only agency that benefits from it.
With all due respect, please think a little broader with respect to grants.
YOU:
Twenty First Century Community Learning Centers
The program helps students meet state and local student standards in core academic subjects, such as reading and math; offers students a broad array of enrichment activities that can complement their regular academic programs; and offers literacy and other educational services to the families of participating children.

Who May Apply: (by category) State Education Agencies (SEAs)
Who May Apply: (specifically) Awards are made to SEAs. Local education agencies (LEAs) and nonprofit organization may apply to states for subgrants.

This program supports the creation of community learning centers that provide academic enrichment opportunities during non-school hours for children, particularly students who attend high-poverty and low-performing schools.
YOU:
Comments:
Arcadia Valley received funding at least twice since 2003.
Grant might be worth mentioning to county school districts.
ME:
A: Yes you are right. If we create programs for students during non-school hours for children, particularly students who attend high-poverty and low-performing schools, we end up the winner by students having something to do other than crime. (Please don’t read any more into that than what I just said). Keeping kids busy by introducing new programs allows us to monitor what the kids are doing, reducing minor crimes that take up a lot of time. This may be a minor benefit as far as dollars and cents go, but it should be added with every dollar we receive as a benefit.
YOU:
“Yes, there are grants available. Does local law enforcement have the time and resources to apply for them all? No. Do they apply for the ones that are most cost effective and that they have the most chance of being awarded? Yes, every opportunity they get.”
ME:
And that is great, I hope it continues. We, however are going to disagree on the availability of grants. They are out there. In talking to people who award grants I have seen that many agencies that only go after the grants “They think apply” miss out on a lot of money. “Time spent writing grants” should be a part of the officers job. I know we are going to disagree on this issue. but that’s OK. I have worked the graveyard shift, I know what kind of time is available. One will never convince me that Reynolds County is so busy they don’t have time for this. Take ANY late afternoon and stop by the 4 way. Or take ANY morning between 8-10 and look at the coffee shop parking lots. If they only use ˝ hour per day they will complete 1-2 grants per month. I think I’m pretty sure who you are and I admire your time to write back and discuss the issues. Thank You. You are extremely smart and I admire your work. I am not trying to make anyone look bad or create hard feelings. I think I have said that 2-3 times in every post. I am simply making the point “That I” think the sheriffs office is over looking a lot of money. Money that enhances Officers, Deputies, and most importantly, the citizens of Reynolds County. You and I have the very same goals however our tactics and objectives are very different, and that’s OK. That’s what the world is made of. I just think we are overlooking something here. I recently overheard a conversation where an officer needed some PPE. (I am sorry but I simply overheard the conversation) I probably should have not been listening but I did. I wanted so much to tell the officer to simply go to Wal-Mart and get a good-works application for a grant. I would bet a paycheck he could get a grant for the PPE within 30 days.
What I am asking, (”Please”) is to stop reading the negative into these posts. You, and I are saying the same thing with a little disagreement on how to get there. Please re-read the posts with a positive attitude and you will see that what I am trying to find benefits the community as well as you are. Including the law enforcement community.

Have a really great day please.
Mike
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:28 PM
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Just a quick comment before I go to work. I have only had time to do a quick scan of your response on the grants topic. I appreciate the time it took for you to work through the formatting. The formatting errors in the post were much worse than in the preview. I do not know why. I think you are wrong about my identity, but I could be wrong. We are entering the busy season at work, and I do not know how much time I will have to devote to politics other than voting. I will continue the dialog if time permits.
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:57 AM
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Sounds great, Thank You.
I am looking for dialog rather than contention. See you later.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:11 AM
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I read your page to know more about Mike... Im wondering about the drag racing thing who is going to be sued when a kid or anyone gets hurt or killed..the sheriffs office the county... who is going to pay for that?? the taxs payers money...good I deal there lets take what money the county does have and use it on a lawyer and pay a family that lost someone to a drag race...Ride along just becuase they sign a waiver does not mean that you are not going to be sued and owe someone money becuase they got hurt..more money out of the tax payers pocket.. I have never had any deputy treat me wrong even when I was in the wrong..maybe the ones who are telling you this are the ones who just got out of jail..yep i would be mad also if that had me there..patrol cars dont work to well around here with all the back roads,mud, water,sand,gravel bars and log roads..White patrol vehicles..tell the bad guy look out when you are coming so rest can hide till your out of site...I know there is only a few deputys for this very large county so it makes it hard not to anwser a call in the area where they live. But I know I seen you said you can get grants grants and more grants...too bad in most cases there is a back side to them grants that your not going to tell the people of reynolds county..you want them to think that you are going to save the county tax payers with grants...whats going to happen, you are going to cause the county to go under a little faster and then the county will not have any choice but to raise taxs to make up for these so called free grants.. something else funny one min you say the sheriff should been looking into the money the county got you thought something was wrong there and at the end of it you said maybe he has..leaving it like that it sound like you think the sheriff was in on it and now on your page you say hes a great guy..whick way is it hes great or maybe he had something to do with the money..This is not a big city or county like where you are from this county does not have the money you are use to seeing but you are going to save this county with grants and after all these years dont you think the sheriffs dept has looked into them and maybe after looking they were not all what they seemed to be and would cost the county money in the long...just wish just one of you would tell the truth..its all about telling people what they want to hear to get elected and afterwards then do nothing or say sorry cant do that...wish someone would tell the truth..sorry so far your not one of them...and I have only seen one add in the news paper so far and some of the things they wrote cant happen..all of you that are running, people in the county are smarter then that... they know when they are being bulled just beacuse you want there vote..something else thats funny to see all candidates show up at place where they never did before but since they want your vote, there everywhere..sounds alittle like you,, you want there vote so you give them a good line of bull... sorry I write how i see it
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:17 AM
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Sorry purelove but I need to answer this other question first. I have cut and pasted your letter and will respond to it as soon as I can. I am bombarded with Honey-dews for a day or so.

Apparently I need to clarify my position on the question of secret societies.
Recently one of the local business owners took down one of my campaign signs. I stopped to talk to him and asked if he knew who took my signs down. I was really surprised at what he told me. He said it was because I was bashing the masons on this site.
Clarify: In my survey I asked the citizens of Reynolds County what they wanted in a sheriff. I received several hundred replies so I decided to post the “majority questions”. (Similar questions by the most people.)

One of the topic questions to question #10 was;

“NO FAVOR TO MEMBERS OF "SECRET SOCIETY" aka masonry” :

My response to that question was: : "I’m not sure, if this is not a part of what is going on now". You are welcome to look back on the thread and get the quote.
That is as much talk as I had as it relates to Masons, In any form.
To my knowledge, after reading almost every newspaper, and talking to everyone I know, listening to the radio, there is; NO FAVOR TO MEMBERS OF "SECRET SOCIETY" aka masonry”. I believe that! To change the words, tell people I know of favors, or to spin this topic, is a huge disservice to your fellow members. When I say: I’m not sure, if this is not a part of what is going on now. That is 100% true. The part that says “I’m not sure” means exactly that. I do not know one way or another, “ AM NOT SURE” if favors are being granted, but if they are, follow your bi-Laws. KYMS.
The part that says: “if this is not a part of what is going on now.” “Means exactly what it says,” There are “NO FAVOR TO MEMBERS OF "SECRET SOCIETY" aka masonry” that I am aware of.
Please do not change the words, they are exactly what they mean. And I stand behind the statement. The Masons are not receiving favors. I have absolutely no reason or knowledge that would cause me to believe any differently.
Taking one or two sentences to your meeting without telling the members the whole conversation is a smear campaign.
So please, if you are going to quote me on a topic, quote the entire statement.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:43 AM
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Hey purelove,
I just want to ask you a question while I have a minute.
You seem really, really angry and I am sorry for that. It takes it's toll on you when you live like that. I don't know why you insist on sarcastic methods to ask a question?
Reading your post quickly I will say this. You have injected a lot of terms out of the sky such as getting sued, people getting killed, things I'm not going to tell the people about?, saving the county? costing the county money in the long? telling the truth?
Well you get the point. Where on Gods green earth do these labels come from? People being bulled? "there everywhere..sounds alittle like you"
I'm not sure where I have been where I havent been before?
purelove, please relax. It is not worth all this. Stress is going to ruin you.
I will respond to your 20+ questions as soon as I can.
In the mean time please try to remember that I'm not trying to hurt, or cost this county anything. If I can't find a way to make it better, I will consider retirement a little closer.
Please take it easy
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:26 AM
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“I read your page to know more about Mike...
Im wondering about the drag racing thing who is going to be sued when a kid or anyone gets hurt or killed, the sheriffs office the county... who is going to pay for that?? the taxs payers money...good I deal there lets take what money the county does have and use it on a lawyer and pay a family that lost someone to a drag race...”
I am not sure where you get your information. Legal drag racing is conducted by one of the racing associations that does racing all around the United States. The standards that are set to race is really stringent. The waivers are upheld in court, the drivers have a lot of rules, including car inspections before each race. The entire program is regulated so tight that being sued has not happened yet. I would need to get names and additional information about the group before I tell more about the program because the only thing I personally know is that both the city police and the sheriffs office had cars in the races. I don’t ever remember anyone getting killed and if the safety standards were to decline I would oppose the program. The way it is run now, and with the kids involved, I’m pretty sure it is a great kids program.

“Ride along just becuase they sign a waiver does not mean that you are not going to be sued and owe someone money becuase they got hurt. more money out of the tax payers pocket.”
Well I beg to differ with you. Waivers are used everywhere and they work. Secondly, Officers and deputies are instructed that if the incident gets dangerous, the person is out. I personally have let ride a long people out of my car at restaurants, convenience stores, and even in the middle of the county. If the program has clear guidelines, everyone agrees, and everyone involved complies, the program works great. It is a huge learning experience for the public. As far as being sued, anyone can be sued for anything. I’m not sure burying our head in the sand with everything we do is the proper level of community service.

“I have never had any deputy treat me wrong even when I was in the wrong..maybe the ones who are telling you this are the ones who just got out of jail..yep i would be mad also if that had me there..”
The sentence “I have never had any deputy treat me wrong even when I was in the wrong” was written as a response to the thread and not my comment. And if you recall my response was that he was one in the minority that responded to the survey. I received a lot of responses to the issue of how people feel they have been treated when stopped. I understand that when people are stopped they are not happy with the officer. That is OK. I have stopped thousands of people and most were not happy about it. I understand that, but this survey was not due to the person being stopped. It was a blind survey where people could say what is on their mind. The comment listed above was on the thread. The majority of the respondents are the folks who said they have been treated poorly. As far as jail? I’m not sure where Jail came from? If that is the case you really, really had a full jail.

patrol cars dont work to well around here with all the back roads,mud, water,sand,gravel bars and log roads..

You are right, they don’t. I am very sorry but I don’t see a question in this statement. We are going to have to agree, (Sorry)



White patrol vehicles..tell the bad guy look out when you are coming so rest can hide till your out of site...
If you do not think the “Bad guys” do not know what your cars look like you need to re-examine the issue. Also, the International Association Police Chiefs as well as the Sheriffs Association disagree with you in several articles posted by both agencies. The presents of a law enforcement vehicle is in fact a huge deterrent, and it works. When the bad guys see the vehicles over and over again they decide to move their habits to another area. Not all of course but many. There is a long list of reasons why law enforcement uses high profile vehicles but I will stick to “Your Topic”

I know there is only a few deputys for this very large county so it makes it hard not to anwser a call in the area where they live.
I understand that but you need to include my entire statement. Where it says the words, “If possible” means try to avoid crapping in your own nest “if possible.” It does not mean deputies can not patrol their own neighborhood. It simply means if you do not “NEED TO”, “don’t.” I am not sure why this is a hard concept.

But I know I seen you said you can get grants grants and more grants...too bad in most cases there is a back side to them grants that your not going to tell the people of reynolds county..

OK, You maybe need to point me to where I said “grants grants and more grants”
I have read all the published information and I can not find it. I also read the information page and I can only find 4 or maybe 5 areas where I stated there may be grant money available. In looking at the, I will call them “boiler plate grants” that are saved in my grant folder, I count 33. Other than the “grant administration” and the “accounting requirements” involved with all grants, I do not see the back side.

you want them to think that you are going to save the county tax payers with grants...

OK, Once again you may need to point me to where the “save the county tax payers”
Comes into play. I did not know the county tax payers needed to be saved. ?

whats going to happen, you are going to cause the county to go under a little faster and then the county will not have any choice but to raise taxs to make up for these so called free grants..

Boy, we may be stretching just a little here. I just did a search on my information page with the words Free Grants. I can not come with a match. I did the same search with the words Free, 2 hits on free. Nothing was found with any statement that said free grants. Could you point them out to me please? As far as the county going under, “That will not happen with the Sheriffs Office if I am elected.” You can quote that if you would like. “Will not happen.”

something else funny one min you say the sheriff should been looking into the money the county got you thought something was wrong there and at the end of it you said maybe he has..




I think I understand what you said. In the newspaper nothing was said about what the sheriff did, or did not do. Thus: “the sheriff should been looking into the money the county got” When I talked to the sheriff face to face about that, he assured me their was, “no crime committed.” I told the sheriff it was “my opinion” he should tell the newspaper that, clearing up the perception that he did not look into it. I have absolutely no reason to doubt what he said. As far as me saying, “something was wrong there,” I still believe there is. And many, many people agree with me.
To use your quote, “leaving it like that it sound like you think the sheriff was in on it”
Well I did think that, and to clear it up I asked the sheriff that exact question. He assured me their was, “no crime committed.” So OK, I have absolutely no reason to doubt what he said about this also. I think the sheriff is a straight shooter, at least with me. I will trust almost anyone until they prove me wrong.


This is not a big city or county like where you are from this county does not have the money you are use to seeing but you are going to save this county with grants and after all these years dont you think the sheriffs dept has looked into them and maybe after looking they were not all what they seemed to be and would cost the county money in the long..
You are right; this is not a big city like I am used too. I am not sure about “Save the county”, I did not know they needed saving. As far as thinking the sheriffs office has looked into all of them? NO I don’t believe they have. I don’t think anyone has the time to look into all of them, I think they have probably looked into all that they perceive to be good ones. I have another (Different) perspective of grants that I know are available to them, they are in my grant folder and if elected I will apply for them. One thing that would be a huge asset is to look at what they have done and augment that with grants I know are available. Seems like a win-win to me.
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just wish just one of you would tell the truth..
Now you are simply slamming anyone running. Let me ask you a question. What would you do? Or, what would you like to see with the sheriff’s election?
I would personally like to see someone build on the system rather than a complete overhaul like I am hearing. What are tour thoughts?

its all about telling people what they want to hear to get elected and afterwards then do nothing or say sorry cant do that...wish someone would tell the truth..
sorry so far your not one of them...and I have only seen one add in the news paper so far and some of the things they wrote cant happen..

Well I am not telling people what they want to hear, that’s for sure. As far as “sorry can’t do that” I’m not sure what you are referring too. As far as not telling the truth I don’t know how to help you with that one. I am the same as you “I write how i see it” and is it getting me in trouble? Yes, but I believe, and am the only one opening the doors “publicly” as on this website, to anyone wanting questions answered or want to know more about me. As far as the newspaper, I have an ad commending the high school seniors for their graduation. That is a big accomplishment in today’s world. Besides that, I have a senior graduating. The election is still 6 months away, a lot of money could be spent in 6 months. I am a little more frugal than that. Not only with my money, but with yours as well.



all of you that are running, people in the county are smarter then that... they know when they are being bulled just beacuse you want there vote..

I am very much hopeful about that. Reynolds County folks are smarter than the average bear. Maybe because I am used to seeing the worst side of society being in law enforcement. Because this area is smaller than I am used too, I am seeing a closer knit group of people, that actually care about each other. That is 100% cool. Moving from a population of 1.2 million people I could arrest someone and never see them again. I don’t know if they got help, corrected their problems, or what. This small town could give me the opportunity to help people and see if what I am doing is helping or making a difference. My family and I have fallen in love with this area and we will do all in our power to help this community. That’s who we are, that’s what we have done our entire lives. That, my friend is not to get your vote. Our family will be here after the election and we will continue our helping life style.
With or without your vote.

something else thats funny to see all candidates show up at place where they never did before but since they want your vote, there everywhere..

I am not sure what you are driving at. (Sorry) I must be missing the good old boys groups.

sounds alittle like you,, you want there vote so you give them a good line of bull...
sorry I write how i see it

Once again, I don’t know what you are talking about. Yes I do want their vote, Of Course. But I will not “Bull…” anyone. I am exactly like you, “I write how i see it”.
What you see is what you get. And I am not sorry for making my thoughts and comments available to everyone.
Not having a website, not publishing email address, making it impossible for citizens to contact the sheriffs office electronically is an issue. I would change that. (Sorry)

Well the ball is in your court. Thank you very much for writing. I am learning a lot from you. I know you don’t have to write, so I am appreciative of your efforts, learning about what Reynolds County citizens like yourself want and need helps me so much in forming an action plan so it can be used if I am elected.

Thanks again
Mike
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:05 AM
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the people here are close and there not going to let someone from the outside come in and say things that are not right. I have heard many people talk in town about some of the things that you are saying.Not sure who has been writing to you telling you things are so bad,unless its been the ones in jail but it not anything like you have been putting on here.I know you have lost a lot of votes because of this site and some of the things you have said on here.sorry you are an outsider to the county and thats something you cant change.I have been here for about 18 years but was not raised here and a lot of people think im still an outsider.not sure what you are trying to do but I dont think its for the good of the county. I have heard in many of the store talk from owners and people and alot of say the same thing ,that there is something strange about you. me, I dont know I have not meet you or talked to you.Just read what you write and what others have said. But anyway I still think there is more to this then just running for sheriff.
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Purelove,
I absolutely guarantee you my only motive in running for sheriff are for the good of the county people and the neighborhoods. Nothing more, unless one selfish motive of improving the property values in the area is an alternative motive. I am not sure what I am saying that is “not right?” You have told me that several times but won't tell me what it is. That’s OK. The people who have told me their are problems are 2 fold, I ran a survey on the internet from Jan 1 through March 24th.
Obviously I had to get the survey done by the filing date. In addition to the people I meet on the street (and in the stores) along with the survey, I had about 800 people comment on things that needed improvment. The really rude and nasty comments simply went in the trash. I was assuming these were the folks in jail or folks that had a run-in with the law and it was not a favorable outcome. I would get the same comments if I did the survey in the prison system. (I called them the over the top comments).
Maybe you could help me with your statement "not anything like you have been putting on here." I'm not sure what "Putting on here" means? What points of the conversation has been "Putting On?" Anyway, I'm sorry you feel that everything is OK. As far as the business owners go, I must be going to the wrong stores. I tell everyone exactly how I feel and some of the problems that I feel need to be addressed. I would very much like to meet up with you and have a coke. I am not your enemy. I actually like the way you think. You are very meticulous in your comments. Tell me this if you would? Describe the perfect world. What would you do if you were sheriff? And, do you believe only one person should run for sheriff? Do you not want to hear differing ideas on the topic?
You are spending a lot of time slamming me, and that’s OK I guess but please qualify your comments on what you think should happen. Thank you, and once again I appreciate your comments.
Mike
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:09 AM
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first there is no perfect world and never will be. I have a ? if you are elected will the deputys that work there now have jobs, be truthful a person is only as good as there word.I have heard talk around that two of the ones running on the ( D ) side are going to get all new deputys and have heard some of them will not have jobs,if that is so thats bull crap some of the deputys we have in the county are ok guys two of them are my friends of mine and I know both of them and the others will still need a job when this is over. since two of them are friends of mine I have been trying to not say who Im voting for but if one or both of them lose there job. I will next time come out and help as much as I can to vote out the one who fires the guys who work here now. Be truthful will all of them have jobs,or some or none.
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