Does Missouri have any of the magic of the Southern States? (Jefferson City: felony, house)

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

You have Springfield, Branson, and West Plains in Missouri. The two large cities in Missouri though are located just outside the transition zone though so they're not southern of course. If this were 150 years ago that would be different though. I'd say consider them two cities since they still had a lot of southern influence back then.

In the south large cities like Atlanta have a lot of outside influences now and not that southern. I'd pick a smaller town like Birmingham or Huntsville then or even Little Rock.

I've lived in Missouri my whole life. I haven't left. I know it fairly well.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

I've lived in Missouri my whole life. I haven't left. I know it fairly well.

Your bio says you live in St. Louis, hard to call that anything close to
average as an example of a southern Missouri city.

How many years did you spend living in towns
like Cassville, Galena, or Cedarcreek?

I lived for many years in IL, and although Chicago is the tumor
that drains the life from IL, I would never ask anyone
from Chicago to tell me what IL is like.

[elvira310]

Originally Posted by edujop

Or is living in Missouri a boring, depressing existence, which is how I tend to view it from a far?

Well, since you put it that way, yes.

If you want Southern living, go to the South.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by TRex2

Your bio says you live in St. Louis, hard to call that anything close to
average as an example of a southern Missouri city.

How many years did you spend living in towns
like Cassville, Galena, or Cedarcreek?

I lived for many years in IL, and although Chicago is the tumor
that drains the life from IL, I would never ask anyone
from Chicago to tell me what IL is like.

I've been all over the state.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by elvira310

Well, since you put it that way, yes.

If you want Southern living, go to the South.

It's the obvious answer. If I wanted to live in, say, Germany, I would ask about if any polish towns were like German towns. I would move to Germany.

[SunGrins]

Originally Posted by edujop

Or is living in Missouri a boring, depressing existence, which is how I tend to view it from a far?

You should probably continue to view it from afar. There's nothing boring or depressing in Missouri but much of it has nothing to do with your preference for "the South"...whatever that is in your head.

Originally Posted by MUTGR

It's the obvious answer. If I wanted to live in, say, Germany, I would ask about if any polish towns were like German towns. I would move to Germany.

Yes, an interesting thought...Missouri is sorta like "the South's" Poland. There are a few residually authentic southern places along the Arkansas border or in the bootheel but a lot of the other quaint "southern-ness" scattered around the state is artificial. Those folks are eating a lot more tacos and pizza than sweet-potato pie and sweet tea. Of course, if someone comes from Minnesota it all seems southern. If someone really wants to experience the south in all its glory they should keep heading southward.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by SunGrins

You should probably continue to view it from afar. There's nothing boring or depressing in Missouri but much of it has nothing to do with your preference for "the South"...whatever that is in your head.

Absolutely concur.

Yes, an interesting thought...Missouri is sorta like "the South's" Poland. There are a few residually authentic southern places along the Arkansas border or in the bootheel but a lot of the other quaint "southern-ness" scattered around the state is artificial. Those folks are eating a lot more tacos and pizza than sweet-potato pie and sweet tea. Of course, if someone comes from Minnesota it all seems southern. If someone really wants to experience the south in all its glory they should keep heading southward.

Other than the bootheel, I kinda agree with you, but you can be southern and eat more pizza than sweet-potato pie, if you want. As long as you know what grits are and what gravy is for.

Personally, outside of the biggest cities (over 30,000), I consider everything South of I-40 and Ft Leonard Wood, to be in the South.

As for the bootheel, I don't think it has as much of the Southern mentality left, due to the influence of I-55, but that could be just because I haven't seen much of the farmland there.

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by TRex2

Absolutely concur.



Other than the bootheel, I kinda agree with you, but you can be southern and eat more pizza than sweet-potato pie, if you want. As long as you know what grits are and what gravy is for.

Personally, outside of the biggest cities (over 30,000), I consider everything South of I-40 and Ft Leonard Wood, to be in the South.

As for the bootheel, I don't think it has as much of the Southern mentality left, due to the influence of I-55, but that could be just because I haven't seen much of the farmland there.

I don't get the I-55 comment. I-55 links the Bootheel to Memphis, and in Eastern Missouri I-55 was built from South to North when it was being constructed. The Bootheel is far more southern culturally than anywhere else in Missouri. It is the only part of the state that grows Rice & Cotton, and it does quite a bit of both.

I do agree though that at a certain point, what state you are in matters. As Southern as the Bootheel is, it is still in a primarily Midwestern state & is subject to the politics & laws made in Jefferson City.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

I don't get the I-55 comment. I-55 links the Bootheel to Memphis, and in Eastern Missouri I-55 was built from South to North when it was being constructed. The Bootheel is far more southern culturally than anywhere else in Missouri. It is the only part of the state that grows Rice & Cotton, and it does quite a bit of both.

OK, I guess I just haven't explored enough of that area.

I do agree though that at a certain point, what state you are in matters. As Southern as the Bootheel is, it is still in a primarily Midwestern state & is subject to the politics & laws made in Jefferson City.

You are right about the laws. Despite growing up among the corn, wheat, and bean fields of IL, I still had to live under the laws of the State, most of which reflect E.St.Louis, Springfield, Joliet, and Chicago.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by TRex2

OK, I guess I just haven't explored enough of that area.

You are right about the laws. Despite growing up among the corn, wheat, and bean fields of IL, I still had to live under the laws of the State, most of which reflect E.St.Louis, Springfield, Joliet, and Chicago.

Illinois is an interesting state. Other than my home state of Missouri, I have the most experience with Illinois. It's really a great state, but dominated by the hard left (and very corrupt) political machine in Chicago.