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Old 12-12-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Kiki Curls wants to end permitless carry!!

What are the chances this bill by the democrap passes both the house and the senate LOL

https://www.senate.mo.gov/19info/BTS...e=R&BillID=144
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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Probably about as good as someone saying the name of the opposing party without turning it into an insult or some other type of negative connotation.

More's the pity on both points.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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One thing to notice is the democrats in Missouri for state wide offices the last 15 years have ran more conservative candidates.

This started in 2004 with One Term Bob losing the primary. We then got Jay Nixon who was less liberal in 2008 and then pro gun Chris Koster in 2016. Koster as AG at one point even fought against gay marriage.

I do thing One Term Bob's veto of concealed carry caused this as well.

Many Democrats met with One Term Bob and even warned him to not veto the ccw bill that it would cost his party votes in the future. Of course he went ahead and vetoed it. If I recall around 20 democrats in the MO house voted to override him and 3 democrat senators as well.


A number of those democrats who overrode him were from pro gun areas like southeast Missouri and Jefferson Counties.


Now those areas have all flipped to Republican the last 4 years.


After this past election the Republicans only lost one seat in the house and kept the same number in the senate when they said a blue wave would hit MO.


What gets me now is all of a sudden Democrats in the MO house and Senate want to make major changes to Clean Missouri saying they will lose black democrat seats. If I recall one of the factors in re-districting is election results. With MO voting heavily Republican now this actually might back fire on Soros now lol.


in 2020 Trump or Pence will easily win Missouri again, especially if the Democrats push a full out socialist candidate or Hillary gets nominated again. The last senate race was thought to be dead even or Claire to have a narrow win and she ended up losing by six.


Of course nationally it will likely be different though. Trump could win Missouri by 14-19 points and he doesn't get re-elected still.


I don't see Trump winning here in FL in 2020. Felons will be able to vote and a high percentage of them are minorities here who will all over democrat. Even if just 200,000 of them vote it will be enough to swing it. There will be no way DeSantis wins in 2022 here with those demographics voting.


That is how Trump can possibly not be re-elected if he loses a big state like FL which he could.


FL and MO are a lot different politically. I will say overall people here in FL are more moderate and liberal leaning than Missouri. They seem much more tolerant towards minorities and gays for example here and are also not fanatical pro gun like Missouri politicians are.


Outside of St. Louis City/County, KC/Jackson County and parts of Boone County, Missouri is deep red Republican now with democrats getting slaughtered in most races outside of those counties.


I figured in Jefferson and Ste. Gen Counties that McCaskill would have been nearly even or slightly lead Hawley due to being an incumbent but she instead list both counties by about 7 points.
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