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Founding Fathers didn't have Health Care nor 'spreading the wealth around' in mind when they wrote the Constitution of this great land. Less government, keep my freedoms, leaders keep the borders secure, and allow me and others to pursue our own happiness. And if I fail, so what? That is my problem, not Washington D.C's.
Neither McCain or Obama care much about borders, NAFTA, etc. They avoid talking about those issues.
Nothing but the sound of crickets from the "mainstream media" except for Fox News. In fairness, campaigning is a grueling mental and physical process, and we're all only human.
And I don't think trying to stop infanticide is a "wedge issue." Thank God for Bishop Robert Hermann and others who have the balls to cry out against letting live newborns die in hospital closets from neglect.
I care about "moral issues" as well. However, other horribly crucial things are hold far more importance in this election cycle. I am not a one issue voter by any means. "Moral issues" always get debated by the southern conservative right, but I don't see them banding together to change the Supreme Court Decision, eh? You know why? A poll taken shows the majority of Americans support pro-choice. I am not taking a side either way on this issue because I don't think that it is correct for the government to step in with regards to religion. It should be "individual responsibility" that takes center stage with regard to this issue, and NOT government interference. If you need further examples I will point you to the history books.
By the way, I doubt I will be voting for either candidate this election cycle. I am an Independent and will likely write in my candidate for the presidency.
Founding Fathers didn't have Health Care nor 'spreading the wealth around' in mind when they wrote the Constitution of this great land. Less government, keep my freedoms, leaders keep the borders secure, and allow me and others to pursue our own happiness. And if I fail, so what? That is my problem, not Washington D.C's.
The founding father's also supported the fact that women didn't deserve the vote, and that black people didn't either. They made treaties with native american's that they didn't honor. They weren't without fault. That's what makes this country great...we can have open dialogue and change when necessary.
I don't think the founding father's would have been too happy with the Patriot act. It goes against our personal liberty to allow wiretaps without judicial oversight, and incarceration of people without a fair trial.
Times have changed and society has changed. I heard on a radio show recently that the top wealthiest 1% of Americans, have as much money in total, as the poorest 90%. People at the bottom are struggling to survive. I feel compassion for poor people who work hard, and continue to lose out on the American dream. Not feeling responsible to help others, with regard to offering low cost or free health care to those who cannot afford it (such as innocent children, low wage earners, disabled people, seniors) is not what America is about, in my opinion.
Not true, I voted for Gore in 2000 because I thought Bush would be trouble with Republican-majority House and Senate, and because I was brainwashed by a bunch of college professors claiming Gore was "the one" who was going to lead our country in the proper direction heading into the 2000's. Gee, that sounds familiar..
If the Republicans were practically guaranteed control of House & Senate for the next 4-8 years, I would have no problem voting Democrat in this election. But that's not the case.
I stand behind the comment that I don't like one party in full control, but if I had a preference of government, and I can't have the 3rd parties/Independents that ideally I'd want involved, I'd take a fiscally-conservative Republican House & Senate and a socially-moderate Democrat President almost 9 times out of 10. However, as long as politics continue as they have historically for the parties, I will likely never vote Democrat for President if Democrats control House & Senate.
I always vote 3rd party/Independent/Libertarian when given the option on local, state, and US House/Senate. I will one day vote this way for President when there's enough support, but right now, the elections are too close between the Dems and Reps to put my votes towards "smaller" parties for President.
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I care about "moral issues" as well. However, other horribly crucial things are hold far more importance in this election cycle. I am not a one issue voter by any means. "Moral issues" always get debated by the southern conservative right, but I don't see them banding together to change the Supreme Court Decision, eh? You know why? A poll taken shows the majority of Americans support pro-choice. I am not taking a side either way on this issue because I don't think that it is correct for the government to step in with regards to religion. It should be "individual responsibility" that takes center stage with regard to this issue, and NOT government interference. If you need further examples I will point you to the history books.
By the way, I doubt I will be voting for either candidate this election cycle. I am an Independent and will likely write in my candidate for the presidency.
Maybe I've been guilty of overlooking your other posts. Can you specify anything about Barack Obama and his presidential campaign you feel negatively about?
I sincerely hope that people who do not want school lunches or medical care for poor children never need it, and they get the freedom to not receive any benefits when they are between jobs. And of couse you they not want a VA or FHA loan either because they have cash in hand to buy the $500k house. Surely they will also deny the parents who worked all their lives to raise ungrateful children Medical and SS, and SSI to their severly handicapped sibling. Your world will see children die the on hospital steps because the hospital will either be closed or will not accept any patient who does not have cash in hand or insurance.
Vote for MOS if you will but be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
I sincerely hope that people who do not want school lunches or medical care for poor children never need it, and they get the freedom to not receive any benefits when they are between jobs. And of couse you they not want a VA or FHA loan either because they have cash in hand to buy the $500k house. Surely they will also deny the parents who worked all their lives to raise ungrateful children Medical and SS, and SSI to their severly handicapped sibling. Your world will see children die the on hospital steps because the hospital will either be closed or will not accept any patient who does not have cash in hand or insurance.
Vote for MOS if you will but be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
My family had some really tough times when I was growing up. There were times we used food stamps. I still say that those things are a crock. I've seen so many people use those food stamps, and then take their groceries out to their brand-new 25k Ford truck.
I have relatives who theoretically could use food stamps, but they can no longer get them, because they make too much money since the minimum wage was raised. I still say we'd be better off without welfare.
Everything government tries to fix fails. There is no disputing this.
Poor people need help, no doubt, but the government is always the absolute worst, and most irresponsible by a very long shot, when trying to deal with poverty.
Private charities, organizations, churches, etc. are much better equipped to deal with these things. Plus they have the right frame of mind and heart to do it more vigorously. Of course, someone's bound to come back with some sob story about how some church done them wrong, whatever, but overall, they're much less corrupt than the money-hungry, excessive middle-men, red-tape, do nothing government.
Maybe I've been guilty of overlooking your other posts. Can you specify anything about Barack Obama and his presidential campaign you feel negatively about?
I see you are not responding to my previous point...
I am not sure I understand your question? I agree with some of McCain's ideas and Obama's ideas, but I think Ron Paul really has the best understanding and knowledge to fix the US economy. The economy is the issue I care about the most right now along with most other Americans. I also think he really has a greater understanding of issues regarding NAFTA, trade, etc. Neither Obama or McCain really address these issues.
Perhaps I should clarify my references to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence. Yes, times have changed, people have changed and circumstances have changed over the last 230+ years. However, nowhere in these historic documents are citizens promised a Utopia. The 'American Dream', as evidenced in the following link:
demonstrates, to me, that perhaps we are all somewhat guilty of searching for the wrong answers from either of these candidates. Obama vs McCain? Guess we will see one week from today. I still think that the aforementioned documents are the greatest guidelines for this country and it's citizens to read and cherish.
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