Obama vs. McCain (Republic, Northwoods, Richards: contractors, military, bill)

[smellykat]

Originally Posted by tambre

This was a monumental victory! Power to the people. Give us back a voice in the direction of this country, instead of making us all pawns to the power brokers bankers and elite Republican skull and bones society. I'm proud of America again for the first time in a long time.

Agreed! I am awed and humbled that we have an African American president forty years after the death of Martin Luther King. I am proud of Americans! Yesterday, we stood up and gave Bush/Cheney the finger!

[ShadowCaver]

MOD NOTE: This thread will remain open for awhile longer, let all continue to discuss in the positive, friendly manner that has occured so far.
I sincerely thank all that have participated in keeping this a positive discussion.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by northbayeric

Ominous repercussions as far as the direction of the Supreme Court is concerned. On the international front, I fear for Israel and think that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other terrorist saber-rattlers will be very emboldened by these results.

I can only hope Sarah Palin will soon begin to lay the groundwork for a Presidential run in 2012. Everything she said during her campaign rally speeches will be totally vindicated between now and then. She will come out from under the yoke of the McCain campaign's handlers and shine even more brightly in 2011 when hopefully her Presidential campaign will begin.

NV is right as usual--we who are able-bodied are relying more and more on government bureaucrats to wipe our rear ends instead of taking care of ourselves.

Finally, I'm an incorrigible talk radio junkie. Talk radio is the only thing that keeps the conservative remnant in the San Francisco Bay Area sane (besides, of course, the Lord Jesus Christ). Already, Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York is talking about passing the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" which would destroy AM talk radio. This would bring us to a hideous combination of fascism and socialism in America. Should Obama pursue this, I will not be silent, be assured.

OK then!
Palin should stay in Alaska where she belongs, and not run in 2012 if she was smart.
If you like talk radio so be it. However, I think that Michael Savage was one of the most hateful, fear mongering personalities in America. He deserves to be on the air so people can hear his scary diatribes.

[ucfjtm]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

OK then!
Palin should stay in Alaska where she belongs, and not run in 2012 if she was smart.
If you like talk radio so be it. However, I think that Michael Savage was one of the most hateful, fear mongering personalities in America. He deserves to be on the air so people can hear his scary diatribes.

I have to agree here. While I respect her for doing what she believes in even though I strongly disagree with quite a few of her social views, I simply feel she's too conservative to even come close to winning a national election. Palin would be *lucky* to crack 35% of the national vote. Since Obama won this election, unless the next 4 years are a total disaster, he'll be up for re-election in 2012. Palin wouldn't come close. The best chance here is for the Republican party to nominate someone who's more socially liberal and much more fiscally conservative than anyone they've put up in years. I still think Romney has a decent shot, but they're already talking about Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal. Whoever it is, it won't be Palin - she's like Hillary.. too polarizing.

[Mamama Mia]

Are you still RED? It was 50%-50% and I haven't heard the final totals.

[ucfjtm]

Originally Posted by Mamama Mia

Are you still RED? It was 50%-50% and I haven't heard the final totals.

Although not official yet, it looks like McCain won Missouri by a little under 8,000 votes, and lost North Carolina by a little over 10,000 votes.

[GetmeoutofAR]

The best thing the Republicans can do in 2012 is to run as conservative as candidate as possible and hope Obama screws up in the next 4 years. They also need to run a good campaign

[Northwoods Voyager]

Congratulations to Sen. Obama/President-Elect Obama. And most of all, a sincere Thank you to Sen. McCain for his campaign, for choosing Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, and also for his gracious concession speech. I am proud to have voted for this man, a man who has many years of experience, a man who did not promise the nation a Utopia. A man who has dedicated his entire adult life to serving our country. And to a woman who has served as a mayor and as a Governor.

To those in disagreement with my choices, I ask that you please be gracious winners while allowing others, such as myself to accept this defeat. I pray and hope that our country will be led not 'down' a path, but 'up' a path to a far greater place in history. A place that in the long run will lead us to a return to the good old work ethic, a remembrance of all who have went before us in seeking freedom, exploring this great land,and those who fought and died for you and me so that we could hold elections.

Nothing comes easy. There are no free handouts. Nothing is 'free'. As a saying goes, 'if it sounds too good to be true, it is'. The election is over. The outcome showed that about 5+million more votes were cast for Sen. Obama. This out of approximately 110 million votes. Now that may not be considered close to some, but it does to me. So, please keep in mind that this was not a landslide. Many of us do not agree with what the incoming administration is promising. But we are Americans, and as such, we will put behind us our differences, but not our hopes for this beautiful and great land, The United States of America.

[GetmeoutofAR]

Originally Posted by Northwoods Voyager

Congratulations to Sen. Obama/President-Elect Obama. And most of all, a sincere Thank you to Sen. McCain for his campaign, for choosing Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, and also for his gracious concession speech. I am proud to have voted for this man, a man who has many years of experience, a man who did not promise the nation a Utopia. A man who has dedicated his entire adult life to serving our country. And to a woman who has served as a mayor and as a Governor.

To those in disagreement with my choices, I ask that you please be gracious winners while allowing others, such as myself to accept this defeat. I pray and hope that our country will be led not 'down' a path, but 'up' a path to a far greater place in history. A place that in the long run will lead us to a return to the good old work ethic, a remembrance of all who have went before us in seeking freedom, exploring this great land,and those who fought and died for you and me so that we could hold elections.

Nothing comes easy. There are no free handouts. Nothing is 'free'. As a saying goes, 'if it sounds too good to be true, it is'. The election is over. The outcome showed that about 5+million more votes were cast for Sen. Obama. This out of approximately 110 million votes. Now that may not be considered close to some, but it does to me. So, please keep in mind that this was not a landslide. Many of us do not agree with what the incoming administration is promising. But we are Americans, and as such, we will put behind us our differences, but not our hopes for this beautiful and great land, The United States of America.

I agree with u on the too good to be true part. i just wish Obama had been more realistic etc. and ur also right about the landslide part.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by ucfjtm

I have to agree here. While I respect her for doing what she believes in even though I strongly disagree with quite a few of her social views, I simply feel she's too conservative to even come close to winning a national election. Palin would be *lucky* to crack 35% of the national vote. Since Obama won this election, unless the next 4 years are a total disaster, he'll be up for re-election in 2012. Palin wouldn't come close. The best chance here is for the Republican party to nominate someone who's more socially liberal and much more fiscally conservative than anyone they've put up in years. I still think Romney has a decent shot, but they're already talking about Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal. Whoever it is, it won't be Palin - she's like Hillary.. too polarizing.

I knew it wouldn't take 24 hours to start mentioning names: in reprospect (and yes, I happen to like Palins guts, whether I like all her views) I think she was a mistake. It would have helped the republicans to have a more middle of the road VP to draw the indepentence and yes, I would be happy to see her return to Alaska. I think she is too conservative for our times and need to learn a little more. Of course in 4 years she will. Another thought: let's see how her family affairs work out. No, I do not think this should have any bearing on what kind of a Pres she would be, but many do and would continue to harp on her private life.

As for Romney, I still think the south would have problems with a Morman. Fair of course not, but reality is reality.. Bobby Jindal is who I will be watching.

I somewhat disagree with you about Obama unless he royally screws up. If he doesn't come through with his promises and quickly, the new, young registered voters are going to lose interest pretty fast. We all know younger people are very idealistic plus expect instant results. I could be wrong, but that is how I see it..

Nita