Obama vs. McCain (Washington, Mexico, Union: employment, high school, college)

[ucfjtm]

Originally Posted by GetmeoutofAR

Oh look, all the terrorists want McCain to win

Al Qaeda-Linked Web Site Backs McCain for President - FOXNews.com Elections

LOL.. you're buying into exactly what Al Qaeda wants. They're trying to make the US think Obama would be harder on them, so they back McCain to increase their own safety because they know Americans will vote for who they don't back.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by northbound74

Let's not forget that Palin, who isn't running for the top spot by the way, still has more experience than Obama, who is running for President. He's that guy who thought we had 57 states.... which I don't care about, because when you're on the campaign trail, you're tired, and say all sorts of things.

Reaganomics saved us from the Carter debacle. Abandoning Reaganomics was the problem. That was all 25 years ago. We're paying for Clinton and Bush's policies now... partly. Both of those guys pushed home ownership way too hard, among other goofy ideas... and a bit too much socialism.

Let us also not forget at the end of the day, that the economy has a ten year cycle. 7-8 good years followed by 2-3 slow ones, regardless of who's in power.

Fox News is a lone wolf in a pack of otherwise left wing proper-uppers. MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS.. the list goes on.....

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Reaganomics DID work, but its lifespan is now run its course IMHO. Carter was not a good President overall, and Reagan had to wring the inflationary pressures out of the economic system which led to a period of crippling inflation before growth could resume.
In terms of socialism...
McCain voted for the rescue plan. Most would agree that is a propensity toward socialism, but it was probably necessary to rescue the economy from the financial crisis. The measure passed and Obama and McCain both voted for it.
Factcheck.org and Politico are my faves in terms of finding out the truth on where the candidates stand. I also like the more objective nature of CSPAN.

I had the great pleasure of listening to Ron Paul give a speech several months back, but the media really quelched his voice. I am really dissapointed we do not have a stronger 3rd party in the US, and I think the Democrat vs Republican fissure is really not healthy for America in the longterm.
That is why I remain an Independent.

[northbound74]

Originally Posted by ucfjtm

Look where the vast majority of food and natural resources comes from.. might want to rethink that approach. Besides, that's why I'm a huge supporter of state law over federal laws - so people with different values can choose to live in states that appeal to them. We don't need a separate country for that if the federal government wouldn't interfere with our lives..

Well said. Things would be much better if states had more power than the fed.
Let California have their socialism, and Idaho their libertarianism, and don't try to force each other to be something they're not. Let those kind of cultural differences exist under the same big blanket. I believe that was the original intent. Don't get me wrong, though. I believe a common language is one of the things that has kept us strong.
The fed should stick to keeping us from being blown up.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by ucfjtm

Look where the vast majority of food and natural resources comes from.. might want to rethink that approach. Besides, that's why I'm a huge supporter of state law over federal laws - so people with different values can choose to live in states that appeal to them. We don't need a separate country for that if the federal government wouldn't interfere with our lives..

+100

I am also a huge supporter of state rights!

[GraniteStater]

Northbayeric,

I do hope you are able to move out of CA soon. It sounds like you are truly unhappy there. Best wishes---- GraniteStater

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by MoNative34

We can't all be a smart as Plains10

Biting on the wedge issues?? That's not a statement, its a smug remark..... It sounds to me like Eric has core beliefs and issues that are important to him. Why can't you reply and say you disagree and explain why?? Plains10 wants to go on the attack, yet won't state which candidate he supports.

Sorry, but I'm calllin' bulls$%t on that one.

McCain's constant attacks against Obama are not popular with Indpendents like myself here in NH. Another item that I mentioned previously is that McCain is now trending away from his MODERATE base that made him so popular in NH with center-right leaning voters and Independents. The constant party wrangling and attacks are just one of the reasons we need a stronger 3rd party in this country.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by northbound74

Well said. Things would be much better if states had more power than the fed.
Let California have their socialism, and Idaho their libertarianism, and don't try to force each other to be something they're not. Let those kind of cultural differences exist under the same big blanket. I believe that was the original intent. Don't get me wrong, though. I believe a common language is one of the things that has kept us strong.
The fed should stick to keeping us from being blown up.

I agree 100%

[GraniteStater]

This latest Wall Street Journal Poll is quite interesting.

Obama Opens Double-Digit Lead - WSJ.com

[northbound74]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

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Reaganomics DID work, but its lifespan is now run its course IMHO. Carter was not a good President overall, and Reagan had to wring the inflationary pressures out of the economic system which led to a period of crippling inflation before growth could resume.
In terms of socialism...
McCain voted for the rescue plan. Most would agree that is a propensity toward socialism, but it was probably necessary to rescue the economy from the financial crisis. The measure passed and Obama and McCain both voted for it.
Factcheck.org and Politico are my faves in terms of finding out the truth on where the candidates stand. I also like the more objective nature of CSPAN.

I had the great pleasure of listening to Ron Paul give a speech several months back, but the media really quelched his voice. I am really dissapointed we do not have a stronger 3rd party in the US, and I think the Democrat vs Republican fissure is really not healthy for America in the longterm.
That is why I remain an Independent.

I agree... to an extent. I like a two party system, though I wish the two parties looked more different from each other than they do now. I thought Ron Paul was by far the most interesting candidate either party had this year.
I think too many parties as strong as the two we have, would be even more chaotic.
I'm not thrilled with McCain... not by a long shot. I don't like his idea that the manufacturing jobs that we've lost are never coming back. Maybe he's trying to be a realist, but we need those jobs. Not everybody, including myself, is meant to sit behind a desk all day, and stare at a computer screen. I also disapproved of the 'bailout' plan. That's just a bunch of silliness.
Otherwise, McCain will take us down the seemingly inevitable road towards socialism and an even stronger fed on a bicycle, while Obama will get us there on a jet plane. Frankly, I wish we were going in the other direction altogether.
Yes, CSPAN, while not as entertaining as the others, seems to be the most objective. I like how they just set the camera and microphone in the room, and just let whatever happen. Now there's a true 'you decide'. It's actually the only one I get nowadays, besides the broadcast stuff.

[firebll31]

I find myself fluctuating back and forth, unable to make a clear decision. So which is the greater crime: voting for someone I do not like or have faith in, or not voting at all?