In what ways is Southern Missouri southern, and in what ways is it not? (Kansas City: restaurant, centers)

[kshe95girl]

there are still pockets of Missouri where one hears Germanic influence to this day, some of the old-timers in my hometown have strong German accents, and their families have been here for well over a century

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by kshe95girl

there are still pockets of Missouri where one hears Germanic influence to this day, some of the old-timers in my hometown have strong German accents, and their families have been here for well over a century

No doubt, not to mention, German ancestry is by far the dominant ancestry in all of Missouri, and in at least 50% or more of Southern Missouri. My ancestors on my paternal grandmother's side settled in Mexico, Missouri and were rof German descent, and her parents according to my father spoke German to each other and with a German accent. Settlers German ancestry is far from the dominant ancestry in any of the South, even if there are some concentrations of them in particular areas of the South. St. Louis is living proof of how strong the German influence in Missouri is.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by ajf131

No doubt, not to mention, German ancestry is by far the dominant ancestry in all of Missouri, and in at least 50% or more of Southern Missouri. My ancestors on my paternal grandmother's side settled in Mexico, Missouri and were rof German descent, and her parents according to my father spoke German to each other and with a German accent. Settlers German ancestry is far from the dominant ancestry in any of the South, even if there are some concentrations of them in particular areas of the South. St. Louis is living proof of how strong the German influence in Missouri is.

St. Louis also has some Italian influence. Most southern states(except FL and Louisiana) don't have much Italian influence, or French influence(other than the Gulf Region).
Missouri doesn't come off as being southern, but rather, a Midwestern state with some southern influences.

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

St. Louis also has some Italian influence. Most southern states(except FL and Louisiana) don't have much Italian influence, or French influence(other than the Gulf Region).
Missouri doesn't come off as being southern, but rather, a Midwestern state with some southern influences.

Yep, and some Bosnian as well. More than just some Italian influence too...the Italian influence as evidenced by The Hill is huge, though obviously not quite as much as the German influence. St. Louis and Milwaukee I think may be the most German-influenced cities not only in the Midwest, but also possibly in the entire country. St. Louis has so much Italian influence that I think it probably would be in the top ten in that area...New York I think has the most Italian influence of any city in the country.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by ajf131

Yep, and some Bosnian as well. More than just some Italian influence too...the Italian influence as evidenced by The Hill is huge, though obviously not quite as much as the German influence. St. Louis and Milwaukee I think may be the most German-influenced cities not only in the Midwest, but also possibly in the entire country. St. Louis has so much Italian influence that I think it probably would be in the top ten in that area...New York I think has the most Italian influence of any city in the country.

STL and MKE aren't the only ones in the Midwest. Cincinnati has some heavy German influence.

[OA 5599]

Originally Posted by kshe95girl

there are still pockets of Missouri where one hears Germanic influence to this day, some of the old-timers in my hometown have strong German accents, and their families have been here for well over a century

An acquaintance of mine from Vienna (I believe the southwestern edge of German Missouri?) told me about some tiny town in the area where everyone still had thick German-influenced accents. I wish I could remember the name...Argyle maybe?

[ShadowCaver]

Originally Posted by OA 5599

An acquaintance of mine from Vienna (I believe the southwestern edge of German Missouri?) told me about some tiny town in the area where everyone still had thick German-influenced accents. I wish I could remember the name...Argyle maybe?

Wonder if they meant either Koeltztown [~30 mins NNW] or Frankenstein [~1 hour NNE of Vienna]? Both, to my knowledge bugging about the area, are heavily influenced [and named for] German heritage.

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

STL and MKE aren't the only ones in the Midwest. Cincinnati has some heavy German influence.

I never said they were the only ones. I'm simply saying they probably have the most German influence. The entire Midwest for the most part has heavy German influence. Most states in the Midwest are dominated by German ancestry in the majority of their counties.

[OA 5599]

Originally Posted by ShadowCaver

Wonder if they meant either Koeltztown [~30 mins NNW] or Frankenstein [~1 hour NNE of Vienna]? Both, to my knowledge bugging about the area, are heavily influenced [and named for] German heritage.

I'm not sure...I wish I could remember the name of the town. My buddy from Vienna has a obviously German surname, but unfortunately lacks the accent.

[kshe95girl]

heard a good one I have not heard in quite a while..... Cali, bet you know this!
My cousins in Broseley, Mo owned a place called Pry's Grocery, and it was located on the edge of the slough....... I have never, ever heard that term used anywhere else but SE Mo, anyone else know this term?