Independence Missouri Hawthorne Place Apt. (low income, apartment complex, renting)

[fontanacteacher]

My boyfriend's ex wife just moved into Hawthorne Place Apartments with their two small children. We have not heard good things about this area. Could anyone tell me anything about that area of town. Can you tell me if this is someplace you would raise children. It is just east of 291 and 24hwy. Thanks

[DocGSD]

Originally Posted by fontanacteacher

My boyfriend's ex wife just moved into Hawthorne Place Apartments with their two small children. We have not heard good things about this area. Could anyone tell me anything about that area of town. Can you tell me if this is someplace you would raise children. It is just east of 291 and 24hwy. Thanks

Sounds to me like you need to mind your own buisness, and let the mother of the children decide what is a good place to live.

[fontanacteacher]

I am sorry if it seems that I am being intrusive. My boyfriend is going for custody and he lives in a rural area. So we don't know much about the city. He as well as I are concerned for the children's wellbeing and was looking for some reassurance that this area is not as bad as had been described.

[DocGSD]

Originally Posted by fontanacteacher

I am sorry if it seems that I am being intrusive. My boyfriend is going for custody and he lives in a rural area. So we don't know much about the city. He as well as I are concerned for the children's wellbeing and was looking for some reassurance that this area is not as bad as had been described.

I dont think there bad, there just old. If your asking are they "getto" then I would say No. Independence is a pretty nice city, like all, it has bad parts, but I would say definately not as bad as some parts of KCMO. As far as raising children there, I'm not sure. I know where they are but not a lot about them. At first glance, I would say they are ok (for an apartment complex)

[Stilldawn]

I lived at Hawthorne for three years. It is good and bad. Depending on the area for one and your own parenting as another. If this mother is very pro active on who her children play with and where they go then its not that bad of a place to live. This is something you have to do ANYWHERE you live. It can be a bit rough in some of the areas of hawthorne, but it is rated the number one low income housing in the country. It has many perks that a normal apt complex doesnt. Including on site GED classes, computer classes. nutrition and cooking classes as well as social workers to help you find assistance when needed for things like food, bills etc. But it also has its more unsavory people like the woman who responded to your post saying to mind your own business. I applaud your concern for children that are not yours. This is what we need as a society. People looking out for the benefit of children in general. As far as being old they were not to long ago fully renovated. They are some of the best apartments around as far as updates go.

[mistyroan]

No. Hawthorne is not a good place to live. I myself used to live there. It is a drug neighborhood as well as cops are called VERY frequently.

[kcmo]

It's one of the worst areas in Indep. It's basically the "projects" most people pay little to anything to live there.

Although I have heard the complex has "gotten better". For whatever that's worth.

Basically, chances are you are pretty down on your luck (or make some bad choices in life), if you have to live there.

[beth0301]

There are two sections to hawthorne - a south side and a north side. I've been to a couple of apartments on the south and they were ok. Old and small but seemed ok. There were kids outside everywhere playing, people in their yards, etc. The north side, however,has a different feel. It seemed dirtier maybe?

If I'm not mistaken one side goes to Independence schools and the other side goes to Fort Osage schools. My older kids went to fort and we never had any problems. We did not live in hawthorne - had a home on the edge of town - but thought the school was fine.

[staceyrast]

I lived in Hawthorne about 4 years ago when my son was 3. I loved it there and never had any problems at all. I actually regret my decision to move out of there. I have lived in other parts of Independence since then and have had more problems in those areas which weren't anywhere near Hawthorne. Just last summer I worked for The Boys and Girls club that is located in Hawthorne and thought it was nice. I am actually going back to apply to live there again just because I liked it so much. No matter where you live there will always be problems. I've seen apartment communities in Independence that were far worse when it comes to safety and quality especially for the price. Just because a person chooses to live in Hawthorne doesn't mean that they've either made bad decisions or that they are down on their luck. Just because a place is considered low income housing doesn't mean that its automatically a bad area either. And a child should always be safe as long as their parent(s) take care of and supervise them like they should. A court would not tell a mom or dad that they couldn't have or see their child(ren) just because they live in Hawthorne. If that was the case then you wouldn't see all the children that do live there. If that parent provides for them properly then thats all that matters. I have no fear whatsoever of moving back in there with my 2 children.