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Old 08-14-2010, 04:44 PM
 
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This is nothing but Fail. The title was suppose to be Silva v Belfort but Belfort got injured. Dana wanted to Have Sonnen be the replacement but he just fought the war with Marquardt and felt he wouldnt be 100% for the fight and declined. Maia was coming off the win over Miller, and was in fighting shape so he took the fight.
yeah, i didnt even know about the fight with Dan Miller. i thought Maia went from losing to Marquardt to fighting Silva for the title.
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:37 PM
 
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I'll jump into this discussion a little late...

Top wrestlers are a danger to anyone who isn't a wrestler. It is a very hard style to pick up later in life. If you go in against a great wrestler, you'll probably end up on your back. Then you have to STRUGGLE to get back up. I respect wrestling as a style, but absolutely hate the guys in MMA that haven't rounded out their skills. A few guys have truly blended their wrestling into MMA but not many.

Sonnen did dominate Silva for 4.75 rounds. However, he landed something like 300 punches, yet Anderson looked fine after the fight. Most of those were those little hammer fists to just score points. That is my problem with SOME wrestlers. They are simply trying to out-point their opponent, there is no intent to end the fight. I think they are going to have to start standing them back up quicker when the person on top is throwing those BS strikes trying to score points without intent to finish.

I said in the first round "something's wrong with Silva". There is no way Sonnen hits a healthy Silva with those 2 shots on their feet. I think the rematch is going to be lopsided in favor of Silva. Sonnen may get him down a couple times, but I don't think he'll be able to keep him there and Silva with knock him out eventually.

Regardless, Silva won in spite of probably not being 100% and getting pounded on for 23+ minutes. That is what champions do. I think it showed a lot of heart for him to be able to pull out that submission.
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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That is what champions do.
Yup. The great ones find a way.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:54 PM
 
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furthermore...

I hate it that when a fighter has a bad night, "fans" say he has been "exposed". These guys train incredibly hard. The punishment that the body takes after years of training, cutting weight and fighting for a living is incredible. I've trained in martial arts for 15 years. I've competed in numerous amateur competions. Some days, you just aren't as sharp as others. Sometimes, the other person's style is the perfect style to counteract yours, even though that person technically might not be a better fighter overall. A bad night does not negate a career of accomplishments...and oh yeah, he won anyway.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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Here's the thing:

Everybody is talking about how wrestling is Anderson Silva's Achilles Heel. But, he was put into the ring with two Olympic-caliber wrestlers (Henderson and Sonnen) and he beat them both. Who is left to honestly challenge this guy?
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:03 AM
 
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Here's the thing:

Everybody is talking about how wrestling is Anderson Silva's Achilles Heel. But, he was put into the ring with two Olympic-caliber wrestlers (Henderson and Sonnen) and he beat them both. Who is left to honestly challenge this guy?
At 185...there is a deserved rematch with Sonnen, then Vitor. Guys like GSP and Fitch could come up to 185 to challenge him, both are problematic styles for him (very strong wrestling) and both are big 170 guys. Or...he needs to move to 205. 205 has a much deeper talent pool right now than 185 IMO.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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I don't see what the motivation for GSP to move up would be, after Kos there is still rematch potential with Fitch plus Shields waiting in the wings. That will take him well into middle of next year with solid challenges at his natural weight where he's the champion.
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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170 is NOT gsps natural weight. the man walks around at nearly 200 lbs. he was, per his won admission, 192 lbs when he fought bj penn the last time.

on the flip side to that, silva wants to drop to 170, and i dont think he can do it, i walks around about 215-220. that is just to much to cut and 205 is perfect for his frame.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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I was referring to his natural weight class as a fighter, we were talking about the fighting right? Sheesh rigas sometimes I think you argue just for the sake of hearing yourself argue.

He competes at 170 and looks great doing it, doesn't suffer from too much weight cutting, never fails to make weight, he's a 170 pound fighter. If he fought at 185 he'd cut 5 pounds and be fighting guys who walk around at 210+ and cut over 20 pounds.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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he should be fighting at 185 IMO. mma should IMO have day of weigh ins. they really need to cut out the weight cutting. it IMO plays to much of a factor in the fights. when you have a guy that walks around at 200 lb (like gsp) and cuts 30 lbs to get to 170 and fight guys who walk around closer to 170 (bj penn) the team with the best "staff" wins.

i also think mma needs to implement at least one more weight class in the middle of 205 and 265. maybe 225 or 230 something like this. guys like randy have no business in with guys like brock simply because of their size. maybe add a super heavy for 265+?

the weight cutting/ weight classes is my biggest pet peeve. i also do not want them going nuts and having 9 billion weight classes like boxing, i mean is there REALLY a difference between fighting at 105 and 108 or 122 and 126? i mean the only real difference is the title, so boxing can have a guy like manny who has won 7 different titles in 7 weight classes, and mma has barely even got 7 classes total.
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