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Old 12-29-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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It seems like all the UFC superstars are retiring, reaching the age of retirement, or should stop fighting all together. Below are some of the superstars that i can think of. The UFC/Bellator will have to invest in the new generation to replace these warriors.

Chris Leben, 33 years old - should stop fighting
Wandy Silva 37 years old - getting there age wise,
Anderson Silva 38 years old - getting there age wise and now with recent injury
Chael Sonnen 36 years old - getting there age wise
Lyoto Machida 35 years old - getting there age wise
Rich Franklin 39 years old - getting there age wise
Antônio Rogério Nogueira 37 years old - getting there age wise
Dan Henderson - 43 years old - should stop fighting
Cheick Kongo 38 years old - getting there age wise but is doing well in Bellator
Roy Nelson 37 years old getting there age wise
Vitor Belfort 36 years old getting there age wise
Jake Shields 34 years old - reaching the age point
Rashad Evans - 34 years old - reaching the age point but looked amazing in his recent bout with Sonnen.
Demian Maia - 36 years old - getting there age wise
B.J. Penn - 35 years old - semiretired
Forrest Griffin - 34 years old - retired
Keith Jardine - 38 years old - should stop fighting
Urijah Faber - 34 years old - reaching the age point but still kicking butt
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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i dont disagree with most of that, i do believe some of those guys have a lot of fight left though. bj penn is one of my all time fav fighters and i hate the idea of him retiring at 34-35 yrs old, but he needs to change his philosophy a bit. his current weight drop, and change of camp may be showing that change in philosophy.

rashad imo is far from retirement. same for machida and i think his drop to 185 will extend his career.

there are some up and coming kids, weidman, travis browne, cain, just to name 3 guys i think will be around a LONG time.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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I was among those who wanted UFC to be on television more, but honestly, the PPV events and main promotions suck compared to what they were even two or three years ago. I wish that UFC could modify their approach somehow. I know I'm talking pipedream nonsense here, but in an ideal world, UFC could restructure their Fox deal and have smaller promotions on the networks. In my mind the golden age of MMA in America was about 2007-9 when PRIDE folded and the UFC stars came over to the U.S. There was the deal with Spike and there was WEC. I can't afford to keep paying for the premium satellite packages, so I'd just occasionally get a dose of it on regular cable and then gladly pony up money to go watch at a bar or friend's house. Now it just sucks ass. I know there are good fights and good fighters out there; it's just harder to catch them all in one place at one time.
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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I agree the new fox deal kinda sucks, I liked the spike deal better. I get fx and fuel and fs1 and all those BUT I hate having to flip thru 10 different channels trying to figure out which one it is.
And then notice Dana raised the price of the ppv by $5 this time. Im sure to pay Anderson more of a cut of the ppv buys. He might have gotten $10 of buys instead of the usual 3-5. That's a nice payday for getting mauled in the 1st, and breaking his leg in the 2nd
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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I agree the new fox deal kinda sucks, I liked the spike deal better. I get fx and fuel and fs1 and all those BUT I hate having to flip thru 10 different channels trying to figure out which one it is.
And then notice Dana raised the price of the ppv by $5 this time. Im sure to pay Anderson more of a cut of the ppv buys. He might have gotten $10 of buys instead of the usual 3-5. That's a nice payday for getting mauled in the 1st, and breaking his leg in the 2nd
Silva - 600 k just to show up. 200 k extra if he won the fight

weidman - 200k just to show up. 200k extra for winning the fight.
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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Silva - 600 k just to show up. 200 k extra if he won the fight

weidman - 200k just to show up. 200k extra for winning the fight.
those are base salary, the amounts the athletic commission requires to be disclosed. zuffa does not disclose PPV buys, or any other bonus (besides FOTN/SOTN/KOOTN).
i know for fact silva has been getting ppv buy % for a few years now. randy couture disclosed he signed a couple of half million dollar bonuses back in the day as well.
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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It seems like all the UFC superstars are retiring, reaching the age of retirement, or should stop fighting all together. Below are some of the superstars that i can think of. The UFC/Bellator will have to invest in the new generation to replace these warriors.

Chris Leben, 33 years old - should stop fighting - I like him, but he was never a superstar. hasn't been relevant in some time
Wandy Silva 37 years old - getting there age wise,
Anderson Silva 38 years old - getting there age wise and now with recent injury
Chael Sonnen 36 years old - getting there age wise <yes, but still relevant
Lyoto Machida 35 years old - getting there age wise <35 but not "beat up" still a top contender at 185 or 205.
Rich Franklin 39 years old - getting there age wise
Antônio Rogério Nogueira 37 years old - getting there age wise
Dan Henderson - 43 years old - should stop fighting
Cheick Kongo 38 years old - getting there age wise but is doing well in Bellator
Roy Nelson 37 years old getting there age wise
Vitor Belfort 36 years old getting there age wise < and is the best he's ever been and is the most credible threat to Weidman or Jon Jones right now.
Jake Shields 34 years old - reaching the age point 34 is not that old.
Rashad Evans - 34 years old - reaching the age point but looked amazing in his recent bout with Sonnen. 34 is not that old. he's not beat up, and is still very relevant.
Demian Maia - 36 years old - getting there age wise <is as good as or better than ever
B.J. Penn - 35 years old - semiretired
Forrest Griffin - 34 years old - retired
Keith Jardine - 38 years old - should stop fighting <didn't know he was still fighting. at what Indian Casino?
Urijah Faber - 34 years old - reaching the age point but still kicking butt he is the best in the world right now. the fact that he doesn't hold a title doesn't change that, just look at what he does in his fights.
I do realize that my commentary doesn't negate your point that as time marches on, we will need to see new personalities fill the void. I also think that it is a function of the fighters as much as of the promotion. I think the rapid growth of the sport kind of hurts this process. there are just too many fighters to keep track of.

i'll tell you what though. last Saturday, Rhonda ****ing Rousey was amazing. In the short term, I think the female division is going to generate a lot of interest. and bonus, there's not 900 fighters to try and keep track of.
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