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Old 08-23-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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IBJJF - International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation

United States Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation

I was never to delve into the politics of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. I just wanted to train BJJ and teach part time at a established academy. Also I have not had time time nor compete in any major tournaments in recent years. So I had not noticed or was ignorant (ignorance is bliss) to what seems to be some structural changes in the BJJ world.

But possibly (not sure yet) I may have opportunity to run my own BJJ program (which I'm prepared to do now). Great right!? But now I have had to take notice of the issue of accreditation. And I have taken notice of the IBJJF and USBJJF being pushed as the "offical" accrediting body of BJJ. But after doing some reasearch I'm unsure about theses "governing bodies". It seems to me that I may lose control of my promotion process. I can understand these organizations requiring a school membership ($400 a year) and 2nd degree for promoting blacks belts (I'm only a BB with professor stripes even though I've had my belt since 2008). But it seem (maybe I miss something) the IBJJF/USBJJF is requiring instructors to register and pay fee for all belt promotions. I feel a rather torn about this. On one hand I find this structural control a tad much or a new BJJ program to handle...but on the other hand I'd like to have anyone under my tutelage to be considered legitimate. Also of course there is the issue of any of my prospective students ability to compete in the pan ams or mundials since they sanctioned by the IBJJF. I believe your school/instructor has to be a member and sign of on to paperwork to be allowed to compete in either event.


I don't guys. Looking for some thoughts/advice/experiences in dealing with accreditation issues with IBJJF/USBJJF. Actually I love to hear any advice on accreditation of academies in general.

Thanks ahead of time to anyone that posts a response.

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Old 08-23-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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Let me just add. I found an article that I found rather disheartening about the IBJJF. Maybe it just haters. But I don't know.

IBJJF Under Attack: Accusations Of Corruption, Fraud, Initially Being Funded By Drug Traffickers etc… | Bjj Eastern Europe
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Old 08-23-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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Ibjjf isn't a governing body, there really isn't one. Plenty of schools don't adhere to ibjjf rules. That said ibjjf has the best competition and if you're students plan to compete at the highest level then you're going to either register OR affiliate with a professor who is already registered. If you want to register, you must take CPR course, and rules course (all through ibjjf), you're SUPPOSED to follow their belt promotion schedules, but most do not. In ibjjf, you can promote 1 rank below your own so if you're a black belt, you would need a stripe to promote others to BB.

Rickson Gracie recently created a new "federation" but it's in infancy so no telling.
Our good friend john ouano just registered his team with Rickson and said they have a lot of work to do.

Bottom line, 99% of all tournaments follow ibjjf rules for competition but they are not actual ibjjf events, and plenty of schools are not registered with ibjjf.
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:55 AM
 
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Thanks rigas. I'd rep you but they won't let me yet. Will work on it.
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Old 08-24-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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No worries.

My suggestion, don't bother with naga, or "ranked".
I deal with kids more than anything these days, and naga is TERRIBLE, and ranked is their way of ranking people. It only ranks at naga events, in Texas we only get a couple each year. They reward people who compete at a lot of nagas, win or lose. All about $$$

I know a kid out of ohio, was ranked #1 in the state, never won a single division, mostly 3rd places it he traveled to a ton of nagas all over so he racked up the "ranked" points
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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No worries.

My suggestion, don't bother with naga, or "ranked".
I deal with kids more than anything these days, and naga is TERRIBLE, and ranked is their way of ranking people. It only ranks at naga events, in Texas we only get a couple each year. They reward people who compete at a lot of nagas, win or lose. All about $$$

I know a kid out of ohio, was ranked #1 in the state, never won a single division, mostly 3rd places it he traveled to a ton of nagas all over so he racked up the "ranked" points
Naga is fairly big up here in the Bos-Wash corridor. And there seems to be a pretty steady stream of events sponsored by them or organizations affiliated to them. I haven't been to a Naga event in awhile so I don't know if the quality of there tournament have changed. I didn't have bad experiences with them overall. Granted they were pretty steep on paying for entry into their tournaments. So I agree with you about $$$$$$$ part.

With that said. I consider them as a general grapplers organization. Not a BJJ one. So I wouldn't look to them for accreditation. Also their events (in my past experiences) in general are good for either knocking off "ring rust" or just giving competitors a "warm up" for larger events like pan ams or Mundials. At least that's my POV.

I'm going to check into the Rickson organization you mention see what going on with that. Thanks again for the info.
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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What about the CBJJ?
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:20 AM
 
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CBJJ - Confederação Brasileira de Jiu-Jitsu

If I got the right organizations webpage. It looks like it is related to the IBJJF.

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What about the CBJJ?
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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What about the CBJJ?
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CBJJ - Confederação Brasileira de Jiu-Jitsu

If I got the right organizations webpage. It looks like it is related to the IBJJF.
yeah part of ibjjf.
us like usbjjf all a part of the same group run ultimately by carlos gracie jr.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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Hmmm, I always thought they were separate. I understand both are run by a Gracie Family member. But I think CBJJ is run by Carlinhos, and that side of the family, while IBJJF is run by the Helio side, and those two have not always liked each other.
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