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Old 11-19-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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Now, lets consider that both fighters are professionally ranked world champs in their respective areas. Which of the two would ultimately have the edge.

For sake of example, lets take Mayweather from boxing and let him face a similar weight UFC fighter like Jose Aldo. Does the pro boxer have the punching power to negate any attempts by his opponent to take it to the ground?.

I wonder do top boxers ultimately have the advantage over MMA fighters as the fight starts standing. Interesting to read comments, supporting this idea, by some ex pro boxing champs, such as Lennox Lewis and Tyson Furey, after the Rousey vs Holm title bout.
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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Now, lets consider that both fighters are professionally ranked world champs in their respective areas. Which of the two would ultimately have the edge.

For sake of example, lets take Mayweather from boxing and let him face a similar weight UFC fighter like Jose Aldo. Does the pro boxer have the punching power to negate any attempts by his opponent to take it to the ground?.

I wonder do top boxers ultimately have the advantage over MMA fighters as the fight starts standing. Interesting to read comments, supporting this idea, by some ex pro boxing champs, such as Lennox Lewis and Tyson Furey, after the Rousey vs Holm title bout.
Pure boxer vs. MMA fighter. No contest. The boxer only has a "puncher's chance" to stop the clinch and takedown of the more well-rounded mma fighter. This has been shown countless times in the past.

Add grappling and ground skills (such as in Holm's case) and now it will be determined by who can keep the other one from imposing his or her game.
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Old 11-19-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Pure boxer vs. MMA fighter. No contest. The boxer only has a "puncher's chance" to stop the clinch and takedown of the more well-rounded mma fighter. This has been shown countless times in the past.

Add grappling and ground skills (such as in Holm's case) and now it will be determined by who can keep the other one from imposing his or her game.
BUT... Once a boxer starts using takedowns, takedown defense, kick boxing and the like, they are no longer a boxer but a mixed martial artist.

Pure boxer, outside of a boxing ring has nothing but a punchers chance.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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Now, lets consider that both fighters are professionally ranked world champs in their respective areas. Which of the two would ultimately have the edge.

For sake of example, lets take Mayweather from boxing and let him face a similar weight UFC fighter like Jose Aldo. Does the pro boxer have the punching power to negate any attempts by his opponent to take it to the ground?.

I wonder do top boxers ultimately have the advantage over MMA fighters as the fight starts standing. Interesting to read comments, supporting this idea, by some ex pro boxing champs, such as Lennox Lewis and Tyson Furey, after the Rousey vs Holm title bout.
I don't mean any offense, but that's a ridiculous comparison.

It's like saying, world tennis champion vs. world badminton champion....who wins at tennis?

World taekwondo champion vs world fencing champion...who wins at fencing?

World Starcraft 2 champion vs. world Command and Conquer Champion...who wins at Starcraft 2? And so on.

Boxing and MMA are similar, but different. The boxing champion wins at boxing. The MMA champion wins in an MMA match. Sure, one can train in the skills necessary to succeed at their counterparts' specialty, but as rigas said, they're no longer strictly practicing their own art anymore.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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BUT... Once a boxer starts using takedowns, takedown defense, kick boxing and the like, they are no longer a boxer but a mixed martial artist.

Pure boxer, outside of a boxing ring has nothing but a punchers chance.

Haha! Isn't that what I said?
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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would this be regarding regular sized fighters or midget/dwarfs?
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Haha! Isn't that what I said?
He's clarifying that, at that point, it's no longer a "boxer vs. mma" fight, it's an "mma vs. mma" fight.
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Old 11-25-2015, 06:28 PM
 
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Now, lets consider that both fighters are professionally ranked world champs in their respective areas. Which of the two would ultimately have the edge.

For sake of example, lets take Mayweather from boxing and let him face a similar weight UFC fighter like Jose Aldo. Does the pro boxer have the punching power to negate any attempts by his opponent to take it to the ground?.

I wonder do top boxers ultimately have the advantage over MMA fighters as the fight starts standing. Interesting to read comments, supporting this idea, by some ex pro boxing champs, such as Lennox Lewis and Tyson Furey, after the Rousey vs Holm title bout.
Just the simple fact of being able to kick efficiently would put the MMA above, he would not even let the boxer get into striking range. The MMA guy could just rush in close, where the boxer is trained to clinch whereas the MMA guy will just toss him to the ground.

But as others stated, this is comparing apples and oranges, boxers box, that is what they are trained to do. To cross into MMA, they would need at least a year (I am being generous) of other things just to even gain a minimal competitive advantage, and this would be just counters to keep the striking game going.

But boxers do have a good game going, a professional boxer is an excellent striker, but being one dimensional (and everyone is to some extent) also creates weaknesses that can be exploited. But I think a good wrestler would have a better chance in MMA than a good boxer, given no other skills, just my opinion though.
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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A lot of MMA fighters have some experience with boxing if not a background in boxing (like Holly Holm).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dB3YUerKVU
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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I think the toughest matchup for any MMA champion would be Mike Tyson. A very talented kickboxer might be able to keep him on the outside (if not KO him) with kicks to the legs and the occasional kick upstairs. A grappler would need to get him on the canvas immediately. There is no margin for error there.

I'd still put my money on the MMA fighter (if we're talking about champions here, not your ordinary, run of the mill fighter). But against Mike Tyson, I wouldn't favor them that much. All Tyson would need is for the fight to become a midrange fight for a few seconds. With 4 oz gloves, some teeth are coming out and some jaws and ribs are going to be broken.

And of course, we know Mike isn't above biting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51090bGcoR8
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