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Old 08-15-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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McGregor has a shot if he can use his reach and power to keep Floyd off of him. I can see a scenario where Conor wins.
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Old 08-15-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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McGregor has a shot if he can use his reach and power to keep Floyd off of him. I can see a scenario where Conor wins.
video showed up recently of conor knocking down paulie malignaggi.
now a report is that zab judah KOed mayweather in training today or yesterday.
if true, thats BAD for mayweather, especially so close to the fight date.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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mayweather has everything to lose and zero to gain besides some $ to cover those tax bills since he never seems to be able to pay his taxes.
But he's projected to make as much as $400 million. You don't think that's a lot to gain?

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the whole "but hes gonna make so much money that he couldnt make anywhere else" is a tired argument.

is he making 100 mil in mma? nope, but outside of mayweather (and formerly manny) how many boxers are making 100mil +? none really. conors last fight with diaz, on a low end estimate brought him 15, and on the high end about twice that. tyson fury vs wladimir klitschko brought fury 5-6 mil, and klitschko 12-15 mil.
That's irrelevant. Not only can McGregor not make $100 million in MMA, he can't get close to that. His earnings from this fight alone might triple or quadruple what he's made OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER. And this is exactly why he's agreeing to fight Mayweather in his hometown and on his terms.

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most boxers are making similar money to the mma guys, boxing fans can only seem to focus on the stupid money mayweather makes.
This is absolutely not true and continues to be a sore point for many MMA fighters today. They get a much smaller share of the pie than boxers do.

There is no UFC equivalent in boxing; it's not one single organization. So to compare UFC, which represents sort of the NBA of MMA, to all of boxing isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison. You would need to look at, say, the top 200-300 purses over the last few years.

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publicity stunt? absolutely! boxing and mma totally different sports? also absolutely. only boxing fanatics seem to forget that.
Was it necessary to throw in the bolded part?

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Old 08-16-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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video showed up recently of conor knocking down paulie malignaggi.
now a report is that zab judah KOed mayweather in training today or yesterday.
if true, thats BAD for mayweather, especially so close to the fight date.
This is the very definition of "fake news."

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Certain fight fans began fearing the worst about McGregor vs. Mayweather when the below tweets appeared on social media and were retweeted on to people's feeds by naive believers.

Word from inside #TMT, Zab Judah knocked out @FloydMayweather in Sparring during a wild exchange where both boxers began to brawl.

— Mario Saunders (@MarioVegasPost) August 15, 2017
Apparently Floyd kicked everyone out of the gym afterwards. More to come

— Mario Saunders (@MarioVegasPost) August 15, 2017
Zab was mimicking Conor and just came right after him.

— Mario Saunders (@MarioVegasPost) August 15, 2017

Now there are a number of issues with ol' Mario Saunders' claims.

The first is that the outlet he claims to write for, The Las Vegas Post, literally doesn't exist and nobody in the fight community has ever heard of a Mario Saunders.

We've done the most minimal of digging into Saunders and found, thanks to a thread on The Underground, that someone by that name had made some pretty outlandish claims in the past, such as Nick Diaz knocking out a teammate of Conor McGregor after the UFC 202 weigh-ins.

So essentially he's just a troll but, not only that, the Zab Judah/Floyd Mayweather rumours already did the rounds two years ago.

As Mayweather's long-awaited clash with Manny Pacquiao drew nearer, talk emerged that 'Money' had been knocked out by Judah, a four-time former world champion, in sparring but Mayweather's camp vehemently denied those claims.

"False. No. Zab is in camp. Zab is a tremendous fighter - he’s been helping with the preparations along with several other sparring partners," Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, told Sky Sports in 2015.

"They are really pushing Floyd, but nothing like that. It never happened."

As recently as Sunday, Judah looked to be enjoying himself in Detroit, while Mayweather has been working with his sparring partners in Las Vegas for weeks now.

The beautiful and always Great @Cecepeniston #GreatShow
A post shared by Zab Judah (@zabjudah) on Aug 12, 2017 at 7:17pm PDT

So there seems to be pretty much no evidence that Mayweather has been hurt in sparring which is a good thing because the last news Vegas-bound fans needed to hear is that the fight of the year is off.

The fight remains on!!!
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/why-the-...ot-true-138215
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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McGregor has a shot if he can use his reach and power to keep Floyd off of him. I can see a scenario where Conor wins.
McGregor has a shot the same way any kid who actually trains as a boxer 5 days a week has shot. About a .007% chance.

I suppose England's Rugby League champion has "a shot" against the Cleveland Browns. Anything can happen.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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McGregor has a shot the same way any kid who actually trains as a boxer 5 days a week has shot. About a .007% chance.

I suppose England's Rugby League champion has "a shot" against the Cleveland Browns. Anything can happen.


McGregor has more of a shot than that, he's a head hunter and I'm not convinced that Mayweather can hurt him. I think if Mayweather wins its a decision. If Mcgregor wins its a TKO.
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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McGregor has more of a shot than that, he's a head hunter and I'm not convinced that Mayweather can hurt him. I think if Mayweather wins its a decision. If Mcgregor wins its a TKO.
There's a difference between punching someone with a 4 oz. glove and a 8-12 oz. glove. It's not only about the amount of cushion, but also the fact that it's easier for a smaller glove to slip through your opponent's guard.

Then there's the fact Mayweather doesn't have to worry about kicks. The only way to make this remotely compelling would be to at least allow McGregor to kick below the waist. I could see him conceivably landing a big punch in that case. But if FM only has to concern himself with McGregor's upper body, then CM literally has no chance since the most elite fighters in the sport of boxing can rarely land a glove on Mayweather, little less a guy who has never boxed.
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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But he's projected to make as much as $400 million. You don't think that's a lot to gain?

last projection i heard was 200-300. now 400?
200 IMO is more realistic. a lot of "mma guys" are not going to be buying it. maybe go to buffalo wild wings and watch.


That's irrelevant. Not only can McGregor not make $100 million in MMA, he can't get close to that. His earnings from this fight alone might triple or quadruple what he's made OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER. And this is exactly why he's agreeing to fight Mayweather in his hometown and on his terms.

not irrelevant at all. it is fact that no boxers are making the "mayweather money" either. because hes not making 100mil in mma is no different than tyson fury not making it in boxing.

This is absolutely not true and continues to be a sore point for many MMA fighters today. They get a much smaller share of the pie than boxers do.


There is no UFC equivalent in boxing; it's not one single organization. So to compare UFC, which represents sort of the NBA of MMA, to all of boxing isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison. You would need to look at, say, the top 200-300 purses over the last few years.


The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that professional athletes -- a category that includes professional boxers -- had an average salary of $75,760 in 2012, with a median salary of $40,060. Professional athlete salaries can be as low as $18,040 a year, according to the BLS in 2012. Pro-boxing prospects may only fight a certain number of times a year and average annual salaries can vary widely. For example, a pro-boxer fighting 12 times yearly could make roughly $2,000 per 10 rounds boxed, or $24,000 at $200 per round. Pro-boxer salaries, however, are also decreased by various expenses.

looks pretty damn close to mma fighter salaries to me.


Was it necessary to throw in the bolded part?
yeah around this place, that bold part needs to be thrown out there semi-regularly (though a lot less lately)
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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This is the very definition of "fake news."



https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/why-the-...ot-true-138215
could be fake news, but then thats what was said about the conor knockdown of paulie talk before video popped up too.

never know until you see things more first hand.
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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It is irrelevant. The assertion was that McGregor can't get this type of money in an MMA bout. What other boxers make doesn't change that fact.

It's silly to use BLS data to make any points about compensation in professional sports because compensation is so bi-modal. A professional basketball player could be Kevin Durant or it could be a D-Leaguer. In boxing, a "pro" could be Manny Pacquiao or it could be some guy fighting in Tijuana for pesos.

To make an apples-to-apples comparison, you would take the Top 100 or so highest earning athletes in each sport and compare them.
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