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In case of aggression or street struggle can judo techniques are really effective since the two parts are without judogi.
Any opinion?
Depends on how good you are, and the situation. Especially the situation. Most fights require you to hit someone, even if it is just to distract them. And in a street fight, you stay of the floor.
I would say MMA would be best for personal defense. You learn useful types of martial arts. Boxing, kickboxing, grappling and Brazilian jujitsu. You also need to work on conditioning (aerobic and anaerobic exercises)
Right now, i box and kickbox at the gym on a heavy bag. I am trying to find an ok gym that i can learn more in-depth and do some sparring. (i live in NYC so that is a challenge)
Having trained in judo since age 11, I have used it twice in self defence:
The first time I was kneeling in the school changing room and was jumped on from behind. The kid started to punch me in my head so I threw him with morote seoi nage. He fractured his ankle on a heating pipe and I was suspended from school.
The second time I was walking across a field to the neighbouring estate when two kids from the local council estate came up from behind and kicked me to the floor. I got to my knees grabbed the kid nearest and threw him with kata guruma, he landed on his head and started fitting. I **** myself thinking i'd caused brain damage but luckily he came around in a couple of minutes. Since then i've avoided fighting outside the dojo
So yes it does work, but you risk criminal prosecution.
Plus I would add some basic boxing to it.
Last edited by archineer; 06-12-2018 at 05:20 PM..
yes judo can be used in self defense as archineer noted so nicely. as with anything though, when you use something in self defense, you ALWAYS risk criminal prosecution, as well as civil prosecution.
I'd be concerned about how close you have to get to someone in Judo to use it in a street fight. There could be weapons involved. I still think learning a good 1-2 in boxing and then being in good enough shape to run fast is the best self defense.
I'd be concerned about how close you have to get to someone in Judo to use it in a street fight. There could be weapons involved. I still think learning a good 1-2 in boxing and then being in good enough shape to run fast is the best self defense.
That is why you would use a Judo move, because they are close/already grabbed you.
Judo is great for self defense, a lot of self defense situations are not punch, but grabbing/restraining. Judo can be effective is defending against such and giving you an opportunity to flee to safety.
I'd be concerned about how close you have to get to someone in Judo to use it in a street fight. There could be weapons involved. I still think learning a good 1-2 in boxing and then being in good enough shape to run fast is the best self defense.
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That is why you would use a Judo move, because they are close/already grabbed you.
Judo is great for self defense, a lot of self defense situations are not punch, but grabbing/restraining. Judo can be effective is defending against such and giving you an opportunity to flee to safety.
100%, most fights end up in grappling range. Yes boxing training I'm sure gives one an advantage over 95% of the population, but I don't think "learning a good 1-2" and running is necessarily best for self defense. I mean, you better your hope the ole "1-2" is good enough to stop the guy so you'll be able to run. If someone bigger and stronger than you charges you, survives your punches (i.e., doesn't get knocked out) and grabs you, and you don't have grappling training, then you're screwed.
Having sometimes worked in my Grandfathers restaurant, I have seen too many fights. The only time I have ever seen fights ending in grappling range is when one or both of the people do not know how to fight; or when one of them does and needs to end the fight because that is their job (such as police and bar security).
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Yes boxing training I'm sure gives one an advantage over 95% of the population, but I don't think "learning a good 1-2" and running is necessarily best for self defense.
Why? Best is what works.
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I mean, you better your hope the ole "1-2" is good enough to stop the guy so you'll be able to run. If someone bigger and stronger than you charges you, survives your punches (i.e., doesn't get knocked out) and grabs you, and you don't have grappling training, then you're screwed.
As I said earlier, it depends on the situation. Are your arms pinned, can you use your head against their nose, or stick your fingers in their eyes? I agree it is useful to know, but I would say half the fights I have seen never got to the grappling stage.
Having sometimes worked in my Grandfathers restaurant, I have seen too many fights. The only time I have ever seen fights ending in grappling range is when one or both of the people do not know how to fight; or when one of them does and needs to end the fight because that is their job (such as police and bar security).
Why? Best is what works.
As I said earlier, it depends on the situation. Are your arms pinned, can you use your head against their nose, or stick your fingers in their eyes? I agree it is useful to know, but I would say half the fights I have seen never got to the grappling stage.
Listen I am no expert AT ALL, have not been in any fights, and am super new to martial arts training. We're just a couple of dudes here on the internet speculating. But isn't that what what us internet posters do best?
Anyway, you used the word "best", so I was responding to that. If "best" has your definition above, then of course there can be multiple bests, I won't argue with that.
Don't get me wrong, there's definitely a bunch of street fight videos online where people with boxing skills just wreck people. Not sure whether that would be my #1 choice though if we're talking about a single art for self defense.
If I'm being purely objective, I think judo might be better for self-defense because it prepares you better for a worst-case scenario (i.e., someone bigger, stronger, and more aggressive attacks you - the person who's more likely to get in close). The thing with boxing is you have a bladed stance, which renders you vulnerable to getting tackled.
However, if I had to pick between Judo and boxing for myself to train I'd probably pick boxing because it seems more fun. I also imagine you get more usable skills after 6 months of training it than you would Judo (I could be wrong though).
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