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What I liked about that was that you can tell that prisoner is a good streetfighter. My view is that in order for any martial art style to be effective you must be able to use it effectivly against that type of attack. In that situation in the tape I think the use of the clinch would have been that guard's best defense to neutralize those strikes then work for submission. In other,words BJJ would have been his best defense.
What I liked about that was that you can tell that prisoner is a good streetfighter. My view is that in order for any martial art style to be effective you must be able to use it effectivly against that type of attack. In that situation in the tape I think the use of the clinch would have been that guard's best defense to neutralize those strikes then work for submission. In other,words BJJ would have been his best defense.
This guy was a streetfighter and the guard was not. If he was able to clinch and call for help that may have been his best best. It looks like he could not create the distance to get away, and he was going to lose at a striking distance. Getting inside the range of the strikes, clinching (a takedown if he had that skill) and yelling for help would have been wise. In order to be able to strike, he would have probably needed to cover and rush into the person to close the distance so that he could switch the balance to him being on offense.
You guys and your "clinch/BJJ" crap have NEVER been in a real fight. Plus, you havent been in a real fight with a convicted felon/criminal/gang banger. I have.
This guard was owned because:
1. He was playing defense the entire time.
2. He was trying to grab/hold instead of fight back which is sign of someone being afraid.
3. Criminal dude had experience in real fighting and it showed from his obvious "spirited" effort.
If the guard had just basic training he would have been able to use elbows at that distance/range and with the physically and techinically poor stability and wild swinging from the criminal guy, he could have easily landing a couple of fight ending straight line blows to end the fight.
Sorry, but if I trained and trained and trained by a$$ off for years and got to the point where I needed to "clinch" and call for help when time came to "get down" I'd be seriously upset with not only myself, but the poor training I received.
Bottom line is to get better at fighting, you need to fight and you need to train. Lots of nuthuggers right now who look at MMA as the end all be-all when it comes to "fighting". You guys see people who are winning who do BJJ, so you say "BJJ is the way to go", then Fedor comes along and is smoking everyone he fights, then the no-nothingers say "Russin Sambo is the sh*t", I want to learn that". You see Lyoto Machida winning with Karate then you get all in a huff about wanting to learn Karate or worse yet, "add a little Karate" to what you already (think) you know.
Pick an art, train your a$$ off in it to try to perfect it, then go out and test it out. There are lots of places where people would be willing to oblige you in a real fight - biker bars, rocker bars, gang areas, etc.
Had a few guys that trained with me for a while who were MMA and BJJ junkies/fighters. They wanted to test me out and I was happy to give them a chance. Guy came in and tried to shoot to take me down and after dropping an elbow to the back of his head and breaking his clavicle, he was "You cant do that ......." I told him, this is a fight, not a MMA match, there are no "You cant hit to the back of the head" type rules.
wait wait wait, you broke his clavicle by elbowing him in the back of the head? holy crap that is some dim mak stuff right there!!! come on mr dilman, your mess doesnt work!
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You guys and your "clinch/BJJ" crap have NEVER been in a real fight. Plus, you havent been in a real fight with a convicted felon/criminal/gang banger. I have.
You guys and your "clinch/BJJ" crap have NEVER been in a real fight. Plus, you havent been in a real fight with a convicted felon/criminal/gang banger. I have.
This guard was owned because:
1. He was playing defense the entire time.
2. He was trying to grab/hold instead of fight back which is sign of someone being afraid.
3. Criminal dude had experience in real fighting and it showed from his obvious "spirited" effort.
If the guard had just basic training he would have been able to use elbows at that distance/range and with the physically and techinically poor stability and wild swinging from the criminal guy, he could have easily landing a couple of fight ending straight line blows to end the fight.
Sorry, but if I trained and trained and trained by a$$ off for years and got to the point where I needed to "clinch" and call for help when time came to "get down" I'd be seriously upset with not only myself, but the poor training I received.
I agree with you on the playing defense and not fighting back etc.. This guy was clearly not trained, and that's the context. He was trying to minimize damage until he got help.
What happened was this guard had done this many times before without being attacked,so this caused him with a false sense of security to let his guard down for a moment,then bam.This is all it takes,even 10 ft of distance can be closed in a split second.So what do you learn from this fight?The obvious,your attacker will come when you least expect,stay on your toes and always face anyone and everyone,no matter what art you may know,when you get popped like that over and over it is hard for anyone to recover,you can't train your jaw or nose
What happened was this guard had done this many times before without being attacked,so this caused him with a false sense of security to let his guard down for a moment,then bam.This is all it takes,even 10 ft of distance can be closed in a split second.So what do you learn from this fight?The obvious,your attacker will come when you least expect,stay on your toes and always face anyone and everyone,no matter what art you may know,when you get popped like that over and over it is hard for anyone to recover,you can't train your jaw or nose
Very good point.
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