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Old 04-25-2012, 02:43 AM
 
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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of course it's a hate crime! why the double standards and why are people not in an outrage?...Trayvon also attacked the guy that shot him, didn't he?
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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It should be considered a hate crime when its clear the crime is racially motivated. I think the law should protect everyone.

MaggieZ, in regards to the Zimmerman case, he was told to not follow Trayvon, he did anyway and created the situation himself. He was also not supposed to be armed while on his neighborhood watch patrol. If you choose to debate that case, you can find several threads on the Florida forum.

While I can understand peoples outrage in regards to Trayvon's death. Why take it out on an innocent party that may have been in complete agreement with the injustice of Zimmerman not being arrested, that's just stupidity and blind rage. Isn't it sad we still have these kinds of problems in 2012.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Well put todd00 ! They should arrest the Animals who attacked the old guy.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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The man who was assaulted was a friend of one of my husbands friends, if that makes any sense. Both of us got a message on our Facebook page about it before it became public news. What a shame. It is a hate crime, no matter how you slice it.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: a swanky suburb in my fancy pants
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Same thing happened here in Philly. A bunch of black teens approached a cab stopped in traffic, pulled the white passenger out and beat him while yelling anti white slogans until the white cab driver chased them off. The (black) DA wouldn't prosicute it as a hate crime because there was no premeditation (he said) Of course there is a double standard.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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It should be considered a hate crime when its clear the crime is racially motivated. I think the law should protect everyone.

MaggieZ, in regards to the Zimmerman case, he was told to not follow Trayvon, he did anyway and created the situation himself. He was also not supposed to be armed while on his neighborhood watch patrol. If you choose to debate that case, you can find several threads on the Florida forum.

While I can understand peoples outrage in regards to Trayvon's death. Why take it out on an innocent party that may have been in complete agreement with the injustice of Zimmerman not being arrested, that's just stupidity and blind rage. Isn't it sad we still have these kinds of problems in 2012.
You have an extremely vivid imagination and none of what you said is what happened.

If that situation in AL isn't a hate crime, nothing is a hate crime. And what are most crimes, anyway? Love crimes?
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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See the link. What do you think?
It's an example of black groupthink at its worst. First of all, nobody knows the whole story about what happened between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. What we do know, though, is that the attackers are not Trayvon Martin, and the man they attacked is not George Zimmerman, so they had no right to be that angry in the first place, let alone take it out on somebody who didn't deserve it. Furthermore, two wrongs don't make a right. Back before the Civil Rights movement, if a black person committed a crime against a white person, it'd result in that person, plus multiple other black people, getting lynched. What makes it more acceptable for black people to lynch white people than it was for white people to lynch black people?

And there's a difference between justice and revenge. We confuse the two too often these days. It's why the Founding Fathers drafted the Eighth Amendment outlawing cruel and unusual punishment. Simply being removed from American society is punishment enough, and justice is served when it happens to those who deserve it. But trying to avenge the death of somebody you don't know by lynching somebody else you don't know is not only stupid and dangerous, but barbaric, and in direct violation of the Eighth Amendment.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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This is not the forum to discuss the Trayvon case. If you want to discuss the case in the link then do so otherwise go to either the Orlando or P&OC forum to discuss the other case
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