Mobile maybe? (high crime, living in, restaurants)

[Surge0001]

Yes just like every city in the country, because of the pandemic, most cities actually reached record highs last seen since the recession or the 90s

[PortCity]

Originally Posted by Lizap

No, I was referring to the Daphne/Fairhope area. I would avoid the downtown and mid town areas. Of course regular posters on this forum are going to disagree, but I have relatives and friends who still live in the area who tell me that crime in the Mobile area has skyrocketed. You need to check it out for yourself before you decide where to live. You might also consider the Cottage Hill area.

There is a lot of ignorance and mis information in this post. Crime in Mobile is by life style association and is not random. And who ever is informing you that downtown and midtown is dangerous has a warped sense of reality. We boost these areas because our information is based off of facts and not outdated information

I have a family of 5 and we are always downtown or in Washington Square in midtown. We see families riding bikes together, walking, aerobic groups , those areas are vibrantly , lively,colorful and diverse.

Your misinformation is honestly derogatory to the residents who live in midtown and downtown. The houses are beautiful, the neighborhoods are clean, poeple are out and about enjoying their families. And it's unfair to those who reside those communities by calling it dangerous when it's not.

[Lizap]

Originally Posted by PortCity

There is a lot of ignorance and mis information in this post. Crime in Mobile is by life style association and is not random. And who ever is informing you that downtown and midtown is dangerous has a warped sense of reality. We boost these areas because our information is based off of facts and not outdated information

I have a family of 5 and we are always downtown or in Washington Square in midtown. We see families riding bikes together, walking, aerobic groups , those areas are vibrantly , lively,colorful and diverse.

Your misinformation is honestly derogatory to the residents who live in midtown and downtown. The houses are beautiful, the neighborhoods are clean, poeple are out and about enjoying their families. And it's unfair to those who reside those communities by calling it dangerous when it's not.

If posting factual data is ignorance and misinformation, then I'm guilty. You're saying the researchers who all pretty much have found the same thing have 'a warped sense of reality'?? I trust hard data more than one's opinion. Per City-Data, the city of Mobile's 2018 crime index (latest available) was 453.1 in 2018, almost double the national average of 270.6. Mobile has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 27. Per crimegrade.org, 85% of cities are safer than Mobile. It gives Mobile an overall crime grade of D-. Crimegrade.org's interactive map rates the downtown area as one of the least safe in the Mobile metro area. The police report cited in an earlier post shows violent crime increased in Mobile from 2019 to 2020. None of the data (that I'm aware of) segregates the data by randomness and lifestyle choice.

Can you post data which shows the city of Mobile has a low crime rate? And btw, I agree Mobile has some beautiful neighborhoods, but this doesn't deter from the fact that Mobile's crime rate is problematic and much higher than the national average (per the data). The facts are what they are - this doesn't mean that Mobile doesn't have some beautiful areas and other positive attributes. Similarly, New Orleans also has a high crime rate, but is a great city.

[PortCity]

Originally Posted by Lizap

If posting factual data is ignorance and misinformation, then I'm guilty. You're saying the researchers who all pretty much have found the same thing have 'a warped sense of reality'?? I trust hard data more than one's opinion. Per City-Data, the city of Mobile's 2018 crime index (latest available) was 453.1 in 2018, almost double the national average of 270.6. Mobile has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 27. Per crimegrade.org, 85% of cities are safer than Mobile. It gives Mobile an overall crime grade of D-. The police report cited in an earlier post shows violent crime increased in Mobile from 2019 to 2020. None of the data (that I'm aware of) segregates the data by randomness and lifestyle choice.

Can you post data which shows the city of Mobile has a low crime rate? And btw, I agree Mobile has some beautiful neighborhoods, but this doesn't deter from the fact that Mobile's crime rate is much higher than the national average (per the data).

Do the researches of those websites live in those communities? For an example purposes only, there could be 5 murders in the Maysville community within the last 3 months.Does that reflect Church Street East , Old Dauphin Way or Ashland ? No it does not. You will see families in those communities walking, bike riding, hosting neighborhood get togethers. You will see people in Washington Square with picnic blankets laid out on the lawn with musicians performing. What happens in Maysville does not reflect the safety of other neighborhoods in the city.

There are residents that have lived in Maysville and other communities like it for years and never have been victims of crime.Because again 95% of it is by life style choices.

Data does not override experience and residency.

[evlb401]

Lizap is one of those weird people that hates Mobile without a real reason. Maybe they got a traffic ticket and now the city is terrible her eyes. who knows! The person was asking about cheap rent and information about neighborhoods from people that live in them. Not I know someone that knows someone that said..... Lizap does not have first hand knowledge or experience of the communities that he/she talks about. The city is big geographically and a lot of crime is concentrated in certain neighborhoods.

[Lizap]

Originally Posted by PortCity

Do the researches of those websites live in those communities? For an example purposes only, there could be 5 murders in the Maysville community within the last 3 months.Does that reflect Church Street East , Old Dauphin Way or Ashland ? No it does not. You will see families in those communities walking, bike riding, hosting neighborhood get togethers. You will see people in Washington Square with picnic blankets laid out on the lawn with musicians performing. What happens in Maysville does not reflect the safety of other neighborhoods in the city.

There are residents that have lived in Maysville and other communities like it for years and never have been victims of crime.Because again 95% of it is by life style choices.

Data does not override experience and residency.

I encourage the OP to visit crimegrade.org. It breaks down overall crime by area. The areas mentioned by this poster are either rated 'F' or 'C'.

[PortCity]

Originally Posted by Lizap

I encourage the OP to visit crimegrade.org. It breaks down overall crime by area. The areas mentioned by this poster are either rated 'F' or 'C'.

And I encourage the OP to not listen to someone who has not lived in an area in over 20 years with an out dated point of view of downtown and midtown communities.

[natedoggbry]

Originally Posted by Lizap

If posting factual data is ignorance and misinformation, then I'm guilty. You're saying the researchers who all pretty much have found the same thing have 'a warped sense of reality'?? I trust hard data more than one's opinion. Per City-Data, the city of Mobile's 2018 crime index (latest available) was 453.1 in 2018, almost double the national average of 270.6. Mobile has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 27. Per crimegrade.org, 85% of cities are safer than Mobile. It gives Mobile an overall crime grade of D-. Crimegrade.org's interactive map rates the downtown area as one of the least safe in the Mobile metro area. The police report cited in an earlier post shows violent crime increased in Mobile from 2019 to 2020. None of the data (that I'm aware of) segregates the data by randomness and lifestyle choice.

Can you post data which shows the city of Mobile has a low crime rate? And btw, I agree Mobile has some beautiful neighborhoods, but this doesn't deter from the fact that Mobile's crime rate is problematic and much higher than the national average (per the data). The facts are what they are - this doesn't mean that Mobile doesn't have some beautiful areas and other positive attributes. Similarly, New Orleans also has a high crime rate, but is a great city.

Last year, 18 of the 40 something murders happened in 3 areas of the city. Toulminville, Azalea/Michael blvd, and DIP north of I-10. You know how you avoid not getting murdered in these places? Don’t go there. Most people aren’t concerned about crime like this because it doesn’t affect them. I don’t get worried about a shooting in maysville because I, like the overwhelming majority of the people in this city, don’t live anywhere near there. Mobile’s crime rate is not reflective of the city according to most of the people here because most of the violent crime happens in areas where you would expect it to happen. It’s like if you biked through Italy and biked through Afghanistan and expected them to be the same. The overwhelming majority of the land mass of Mobile is perfectly fine for you to live, grocery shop, eat at restaurants, etc.

[PortCity]

Originally Posted by natedoggbry

Last year, 18 of the 40 something murders happened in 3 areas of the city. Toulminville, Azalea/Michael blvd, and DIP north of I-10. You know how you avoid not getting murdered in these places? Don’t go there. Most people aren’t concerned about crime like this because it doesn’t affect them. I don’t get worried about a shooting in maysville because I, like the overwhelming majority of the people in this city, don’t live anywhere near there. Mobile’s crime rate is not reflective of the city according to most of the people here because most of the violent crime happens in areas where you would expect it to happen. It’s like if you biked through Italy and biked through Afghanistan and expected them to be the same. The overwhelming majority of the land mass of Mobile is perfectly fine for you to live, grocery shop, eat at restaurants, etc.

Very true ! And even then residents that live in those communities who are not associated with that life style are just as fine as well. I've know and still know residents who have lived in those communities for decades and have never been attacked, assaulted, or etc.

[Southsky]

OP, I answered you separately in a DM, but as a current Mobile resident, it's hilarious that lizap constantly argues about something they do not even experience him/herself with people that do. I would continue to weigh your options and do what you are comfortable with... I'd be glad to help as needed