Mobile maybe? (violent crime, living, statistics)

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by Surge0001

Major ignorance, sounds like you’ve never been in populations 200 or more. Everywhere has crime, every single city. We have towns around here where crime doesn’t even happen either. More police doesn’t necessarily solve anything. Birmingham is among the the highest in per Capita police (about 4 per 1000) but has the crime in the state. Where have you taken vacations?

You have to remember that crime in most cities is pretty much restricted to certain neighborhoods. While a city may have high crime rates overall, it generally comes from relatively small physical areas. Stay out of those areas and you'll almost certainly be fine. Just by watching the news, or reading statistics, you might think the entire place is a hellhole.

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

You have to remember that crime in most cities is pretty much restricted to certain neighborhoods. While a city may have high crime rates overall, it generally comes from relatively small physical areas. Stay out of those areas and you'll almost certainly be fine. Just by watching the news, or reading statistics, you might think the entire place is a hellhole.

Very true

[natedoggbry]

Originally Posted by peihong33

The first obligation of a city government is to protect its residents. Everything else is secondary. If it is unwilling or unable to do that, I have no interest in visiting or moving there. We're retired and can move anywhere. Why pick a place that has had uncontrolled crime for a long time.
Same goes for Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, St louis and some other major cities.
I live in a small NE town which has virtually never had a mugging, at least not in anyone's memory. If you live in a city that has serious crime, like Mobile, it is partially your fault, for letting the city government not do their job or maybe because you are too cheap to pay the necessary taxes to pay for enough police.

“I live in a town of 65 people and there hasn’t been been a crime committed since the Salem witch trials” yeah we get it, you think any area that has more crime than your unheard of town is just unlivable. You might as well stick in your all white enclave of a town and look down on all the cities where poor black people are the victims of most of the violent crime. This whole summer has basically been mostly black teenage boys dying from other black teenage boys due to beefs and domestic issues that you can’t just arrest your way out of. I know that may be hard for you to understand, but most of the violent crimes are committed by people that know the victim. The overwhelming majority is not random acts against unknown people.

[peihong33]

Originally Posted by natedoggbry

“I live in a town of 65 people and there hasn’t been been a crime committed since the Salem witch trials” yeah we get it, you think any area that has more crime than your unheard of town is just unlivable. You might as well stick in your all white enclave of a town and look down on all the cities where poor black people are the victims of most of the violent crime. This whole summer has basically been mostly black teenage boys dying from other black teenage boys due to beefs and domestic issues that you can’t just arrest your way out of. I know that may be hard for you to understand, but most of the violent crimes are committed by people that know the victim. The overwhelming majority is not random acts against unknown people.

So youre saying :it's just blacks killing blacks so who cares?
Yeah, that's an enlightened position.

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by peihong33

So youre saying :it's just blacks killing blacks so who cares?
Yeah, that's an enlightened position.

I think he's saying just the opposite.

[evlb401]

Yeah, I don't think that was the meaning of the post. No one said who cares. My gosh! Any crime effects the entire city no matter what neighborhood. I think that the post was saying most of the crime is committed by people that know each other. Unfortunately, in Mobile most crime is black on black crime and is very personal in nature. Very hard to fight that kind of crime (Personal vendettas and beefs). For the majority of citizens, if you are not interacting with a criminal element you will most likely never be a victim of a crime.....Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, etc.

[PortCity]

I'm a 35 year old black male .I grew up in two of the most dangerous communities in the city ( Da Bottoms and Toulminville)before my parents built a brand new house in Semmes, AL. We were around it first hand and I can tell you that 95% of the time it was committed by those who had negative lifestyle choices. In those neighborhoods are hard working people that will give you the shirt off of their backs my family was one of several. So yes crime is isolated in these cities and I have never been a victim of crime even in spite of the neighborhoods I grew up in.

I had a different lifestyle choice. I grew up on Hercules street in an area known as the " Da Bottoms". There is a lot of history in that part of town. And if you were not so scared you could have done the Dora Finley African American trail which is one of Mobile's tourist attractions.That highlight the African history in the city from slaves, to Creoles, to the middle class black enclaves that shape the city to etc etc etc.

The Avenue was once Mobile's Harlem Renaissance. Across from Da Bottoms there is a community called the Camp Ground.The Camp Grond still has some of the original Shot Gun houses that were owned by slaves. Those communities are rich in history. And there are far more of us who come from those areas that are good people. " I know you didn't say that there aren't ". What I'm saying is get out of the bubble please !

[peihong33]

"95% of the time it was committed by those who had negative lifestyle choices."

No kidding? You mean it wasnt committed by MIT grads working on Wall Street?
The point is to avoid those cities that have a lot of people with negative lifestyle choices. The more there are, the greater the odds of being a victim. And the unpleasant truth is that some cities, like Mobile and New orleans, provide you with a greater chance of being a victim.
And no, not all crime is a product of personal beefs. A lot of it is to steal and those people with negative lifestyle choices are nevertheless often smart enough to target those people who are likely to have something worth stealing. And you know who that is? Yeah, people like me.
And i suggest you give your condescending 'get out of your bubble' attack, a rest. I lived in various areas of NYC continuously for several decades and there aint no bubbles there.

[PortCity]

Originally Posted by peihong33

"95% of the time it was committed by those who had negative lifestyle choices."

No kidding? You mean it wasnt committed by MIT grads working on Wall Street?
The point is to avoid those cities that have a lot of people with negative lifestyle choices. The more there are, the greater the odds of being a victim. And the unpleasant truth is that some cities, like Mobile and New orleans, provide you with a greater chance of being a victim.
And no, not all crime is a product of personal beefs. A lot of it is to steal and those people with negative lifestyle choices are nevertheless often smart enough to target those people who are likely to have something worth stealing. And you know who that is? Yeah, people like me.
And i suggest you give your condescending 'get out of your bubble' attack, a rest. I lived in various areas of NYC continuously for several decades and there aint no bubbles there.

Whew the ignorance is uncanny in your post this went waaaay over your head.

[MardiGras251]

Originally Posted by peihong33

We were thinking about taking a summer vacation to the Mobile, gulf coast area and your post has pretty much put the kabosh on that!

Mobile doesn’t need small-minded ppl like you here to visit or to stay. Go to fort Walton fl or crestview fl good luck on your search for a vacation spot!