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Unread 10-02-2010, 09:10 PM
 
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With so many celebrities and hollywood types owning property in Montana, is the state in danger of becoming the Vermont of the Rocky Mountains states?
Vermont used to be a very conservative state, then liberals from Lower New England and elsewhere discovered the state, moved there en masse and basically took the state over in the last generation. They even elected a socialist as their senator, something that would have been unheard of in the old Vermont.
Will Montana go that way?

 
Unread 10-03-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Will Montana go that way?
It already is going that way.
 
Unread 10-03-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: NW Montana
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It already is going that way.
Sad - but true. Let's see if we can't reverse the trend, at least in regard to their influence.

Vote November 2nd!
 
Unread 10-03-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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As a young liberal man who has lived in Billings pretty much all my life I would have to say that Montana is not all that welcoming to liberals, as you may have noticed from the reply's your post generated. People here tend to assume that everyone is a conservative and talk about issues as if everyone is in agreement with them. Even when I had a full beard and a two foot long ponytail random people would strike up conversations with me about how terrible liberals are or tell me rascist jokes about Obama. That's not to say you can't find like minded people here or that you'll be a hated member of the community, but if you can't hold your tongue expect to get in many arguments.
 
Unread 10-03-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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... or tell me rascist jokes about Obama.
Idiots or false-flag liberals making believe that they are conservatives, but I repeat myself, make racist jokes about Obama.
 
Unread 10-03-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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I have found that many folks (in our neck of the woods) who tell racist jokes may not really be racists, they just have friends they want to impress with extremely bad taste jokes and and appear to lack the desire to appear intelligent or be a person of high moral character.
They still may help a person of another race if needed.
 
Unread 10-05-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: West Yellowstone, MT
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Montana is not all that welcoming to liberals, as you may have noticed from the reply's your post generated. People here tend to assume that everyone is a conservative and talk about issues as if everyone is in agreement with them.
I see too much generalization of people and ideas of Montana based on this forum. There are probably 20 people who voiced an opinion on this subject...with varied ideas. This is a very small sampling of the citizens of Montana and to make broad generalizations based on the opinions of a few is ignorant. Yes..there will be a few "nuts" in every community, but to stereotype the whole community because of the one "nut" is an example of prejudice.
 
Unread 10-07-2010, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Okay, let's go at this different. We've heard some solid conservative viewpoints and reasoning as to why the liberal viewpoint is unwelcome, because of the negative impact it has on Montana.

Now let's hear from some liberals as to why their viewpoint and policies would be good for Montana.

And I want to hear concrete reasons, none of this "it works great in California" nonsense (especially since it's patently untrue, as even a cursory glance at CA's present state will tell you). And if your solutions rely on tax dollars, be sure to tell us where that money comes from.

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Irony: in these discussions, it always comes up that Montana receives more federal dollars than it pays in taxes. But per the liberal viewpoint, isn't this as it should be, given that Montana is a relatively "poor" state?
 
Unread 10-08-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: State of General Disarray
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Well, I'd like to see stricter zoning, and land-use plans developed at local/county level. Cities and counties, individually, should develop a vision for future growth to limit urban sprawl and five-acres-and-a-McMansion-type subdivisions. Nobody's going to stop people moving into Montana, but we can at least have a say in HOW they do it! This would help preserve the rural quality of the state, save money on road maintenance and improvements by reducing the burden on infrastructure, and the people most impacted (the local residents) would have input to shape their communities.

And -- look how well it worked in California!!

(Sorry, just had to throw that out there.)
 
Unread 10-10-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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I read quite a few of the comments on this thread and found a great many to be inaccurate. I was born and raised in Montana but have also experiencied the political and social forces that exist all over the country. In my opinion Montana is not particularly conservative when you compare it to many other states such as the one I now live in. I would consider it to be a moderate state without any extremist leanings. I also have the feeling that many people who post on this forum have never done much traveling or have any sense of what the rest of the world is like and they base their statements on their own limited sense of society and that they repeat statements that others with similar shallow thoughts have repeated from those before them.
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