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Old 07-29-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan View Post
The secular-progressive-liberal is always the first to declare "let's not use ad hominem attacks" in our discussion; but, all too often, they are the first to turn to ad hominem attacks when they are losing the argument.
There have actually been some surveys and smalltime research in that area. Turns out that's so about 80% of the time, which agrees with my experience (and yours as well, evidently).

 
Old 07-29-2010, 08:25 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Wink Monorail ?

So will it be standard or narrow gauge ? Hey I heard that they were planning a high speed monorail line from the Flathead Valley to Portland Oregon just to funnel the liberals out.
We're just joking with you Roy there is room for everyone here.

Wanna go fishing ?
 
Old 07-29-2010, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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So will it be standard or narrow gauge ? Hey I heard that they were planning a high speed monorail line from the Flathead Valley to Portland Oregon just to funnel the liberals out.
We're just joking with you Roy there is room for everyone here.

Wanna go fishing ?
Now Rickers, make sure your knife is sharp before you go cuttin' up that bait.
 
Old 08-04-2010, 05:14 PM
 
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Just don't try to convince anyone on gun control. You'll probably get laughed at - by Democrats and Republicans alike.
 
Old 08-05-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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Will I be run out of town if I voice my liberal views in Flathead Valley? I can keep my mouth shut, but I find that most conservatives can't, and thats when I come out swinging!
The problem is that most leftist views tend to focus on control:

1) You should pay more taxes to help the poor
2) You should give the state the authority to regulate your energy supply and your showerhead (the latest from the Obama administration).
3) The state should have a right to mandate that you buy healthcare (or make you pay taxes to buy it for everyone else).
4) You cannot have a gun unless X.
5) You must accept homosexuals or else X.
6) You must not swim in this river to save X.
7) You should pay higher taxes to protect us from X benign gas.
8) You should pay a tax for your fuel-inefficient vehicle. Or you should pay a tax to subsidize X fuel-efficient vehicle made for young faux-hipsters with no kids, no farm equipment, and no snow.

Conservatives on the whole are about deregulation. So when you come into a conservative area and start talking about figuratively putting in fences and crimping lifestyles, they understandably get a little hacked. I don't even own a gun, but I've been tempted when I've heard some fool go babbling about gun control (because it's worked....sooooo....well in Chicago and DC).

Most stayed here or moved to Montana to stay or get away from it all, particularly authoritarianism. They don't want some beurocrat who has never held a private sector job in his life yammering about how they can micromanage theirs. Seeing the Imperial Forces in Washington DC with their long tentacles and endless appetite for some new government program or regulation is the last thing most want.

So run you out of town? I doubt it. Conservatives, as stated earlier, tend to be more laissez-faire. Accept you? That's a whole other issue.

I've personally found I value my individual liberty too much and put too much weight on personal accountability to become great friends with outspoken liberals. My left-leaning bud who never gets riled up about much, well, I just make fun of him relentlessly.
 
Old 08-05-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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From PowerLineBlog.com (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/08/026898.php: - broken link)

Yesterday (July 31), I (Paul Mirengoff) claimed that, while liberatarian (sic) candidates like Rand Paul are uncomfortable with "fudging" their views, liberal candidates seem quite willing to fudge their beliefs in order to gain office. An email from one of my favorite Power Line correspondents, Scott Smith, prompts me to suggest the following explanation for the difference: liberals think their ideology makes them, above all, morally superior; libertarians think their ideology makes them, above all, intellectually superior.

Moral superiority, for many who feel it, is not compromised by deceptive statements made in the name of gaining the power to "do good." But intellectual superiority is compromised by any statement that is incorrect or intellectually lazy.
 
Old 08-06-2010, 06:16 PM
 
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OP, sometimes the best way to disagree is by keeping your mouth shut.

Regarding the political polarity that seems prevalent on this board (as on most), just a quick heads up with respect to future arguments - everyone is wrong but me.
 
Old 08-06-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Montana
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<------ This guy has been wrong more times than anyone... but you know what?? That's how a person really learns..
 
Old 08-06-2010, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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...with respect to future arguments - everyone is wrong but me.
"All the world is strange save thee and me, and even thou art a little strange."
-- Robert Owen (1771-1858)

Last edited by Reziac; 08-06-2010 at 08:10 PM.. Reason: slight misquote to get around the junk filter
 
Old 08-06-2010, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Montana
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"All the world is strange save thee and me, and even thou art a little strange."
-- Robert Owen (1771-1858)
The rules of the forum flog my fingers once again... I tried to rep you for this one, but was unable too... At least I can make a public acknowledgment of my approval and give you and old fashioned "heck yeah"...
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