Let's visit on the Porch II (Lolo, Sheridan: find a job, counselor, social security)

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by MTSilvertip

I am not sure the board could handle another round of the "Cousins"

MaBonnema, funny you should mention geni..gena.. family trees.

My nephew has a school project about when families moved to the US, so he asked at my mother's birthday supper last Saturday evening. I think he got more than he bargained for as we were able to tell him the names and dates for family back to the Revolution, on both my Father's and Mother's sides, (his grandparents).

I decided to look a little deeper into one of my ancestors, Daniel Webster and found that that line of the family first came to this country in 1636, and that Daniel's father, Ebenezer, (yeah that is his real name ) fought in the French and Indian wars as one of Roger's Rangers, attaining the rank of Captain , and then went on to raise his own militia and fight in the Revolution.

I found out that Daniel had 5 children, 2 died during childhood, but 2 sons, Daniel Fletcher Webster, Colonel, USA died at the second battle of Bull Run, DEATH OF COL. FLETCHER WEBSTER. - NYTimes.com Fletcher Webster | Ask.com Encyclopedia
The other, Edward Webster was a Major in the US Army and fought and died while surving during the Mexican American war.
My mother's family was directly decendent of Fletcher Webster.

My Father's family, (so far anyway) came to the US prior to the Revolution from Huntington, Huntingtonshire, England, Oliver Cromwell's hometown, I guess my dislike of government goes waaaay back
Cromwell was the guy that took down the British Monarchy, beheaded Charles the King of England, and kicked the snot out of the Scotish and Irish.
Historical Biography: Oliver Cromwell

This stuff is addicting!!!

My wife's Dad side of the family is related to the Brinton's, who came over in the 1600's.. That line had General George Brinton McClellan, who was reputed to be too smart ( or to dumb ) to apply mass force in the Civil War to defeat the Confederates.
We have a quilt hanging that was made by Anna Marie Brinton in the 1800's, and a few other items from the family.

Her dad and granddad were respected WWI and WWII veterans (respectively). Her dad carried a .45 sidearm as an intelligence officer in WWII that was originally carried by his dad in WWI in the trenches in France. We have that sidearm in our safe.

Her mom came over to the states post WWII from Germany and married this man, whose father fought in the trenches on the same field her grandfather fought in WWI.

My dad's family came from Scots-Irish decent with unknown and unregistered entry into the country but settled with folks in the south. They were poor small farmers, mainly tobacco and sustenance farming.

My mom's side of the family arrived from Germany in the late 1800's, originally Oberhouse and settled in Ohio with other Germans. They changed their last name during WWI due to retribution often associated with being of Prussian or Germanic lineage. At one point they had over 1,000 acres of productive ground in the fertile lakes region of northern Ohio.

It's an interesting patchwork us Americans. Most of us are pieces of a quilt stitched from fabric from many areas of the globe.

[MaBonnema]

WOW... what interesting genealogy!!
What gets me is some of these folks that ASSUME things and then add them without even trying to read up on anything. There is a family group.. evidently they have a fascination with Indian heritage etc...
even put up web pages with Indian jpegs etc...
We havent been able to find out the last name on one of my ancestors (female) and this family group has jumped on the" OH she must have been Indian because she had no last name" band wagon.
Just because the husband of the woman with uknown last name bought land from a Creek Indian in 1838.
Many people of Indian heritage are not able to prove it because way back then you were considered less than human if you had Indian blood. So many of Indian heritage denied that they were Indian where it says Race... they wrote "Other".
Now it seems everyone wants to lay claim Indian heritage. If their ancestors were not listed on the Indian rolls or living on a reservation then they are basically SOL.
Those whose families descend from early Tennessean families and claim to have Indian heritage may actually be of Melungeon descent. Not white and not Indian and not Black. DNA studies are still being done trying to figure out where the Melungeon heritage comes from.
My deceased husband had dark hair and olive colored skin and his mother claimed it was because there was Indian blood in the family yet she didnt know from what tribe or where. Since her family and ancestors were from SC and TN.. it could possibly be Melungeon and not Indian.

I just uploaded my family tree on Ancestry.com . It is a "public tree". Tree name is American Pie under the the user name of delo1345. Look up Pinkney Cunningham Cooper b. Alabama... and then search under family trees.. you should be able to find it if you want to browse through it.

I'm still adding and editing and adding the "hints"etc.

Or, have a look at this page put up by Kay Rockett.. The Cooper Lineage

It's an old page and I dont even know if the woman is alive anymore. But that will give you some info.
Still no castles or pots of gold yet. LOL

[Reziac]

I've probably related this tale before, but anyway... I knew someone in SoCal who was a professional genealogist specialising in American Indians. She gave talks at various functions... anyway one time she (Mary) was speaking at some outfit like "Daughters of the Pilgrims" (I don't recall exactly but you get the idea). Afterward... this conversation:

Club Member, waving pedigree, "I'm a descendant of [famous pilgrim woman]."
Mary: "No, you're not."
Club Member, pointing at pedigree: "Yes I am, she's right here in my lineage! I'm descended from her!"
Mary: "No, you're not. [Famous pilgrim woman] was sterile. She adopted 13 Indian children."
Club Member: "Well, I never!!"

Mary also told me that a great many so-called Indians from before the Civil War actually were escaped slaves, no Indian about it.

[ElkHunter]

A good friend of mine that I grew up with is a history and math teacher. When he was in his early 40's and computers were finally getting around from house to house, he decided to start in on his family tree. Of course, just like most folks, he started with the living grandparents and started asking questions. He started filling in the tree from grandparents going back. He tracked both sides of the family back to migration in the 1600's. Here, he kind of hit a stop as it was going to start costing big bucks to get into European records. So he decided to fill in all the gaps. Aunts, uncles, cousins, siblings, etc. That is when, at age 44, he found out he was adopted. His folks had never told him.

I asked him what he thought or how he felt about it and he said, "Dad is still dad, no matter what the paperwork says."

[MaBonnema]

I agree EH.. I have one in my family that was something like that. My grt grandfather.
His mom had married a man and he died leaving her with 2 children. She was involved with another man but his family didnt like her sort and I think he may have been married at the time (well to do). She had another child by him.
Her next husband my grt grt grandfather married her and on the census it lists my grandfather by his mother's previous married name then has "step son" written in the column.
Next census the name is Mcbride and he is listed as "son"..
grt grandpa always knew Silas wasnt his biological father but that was his "daddy". The man raised him and took care of him as his own child and Lora (pronounced Lore).. took on the McBride last name.
As far as Silas was concerned.. that was his son. Didnt need no papers.
Lora always knew his parentage... and there are some descendants in the family that like to point out that certain people aren't really blood kin. But I was always told.. those that raise you, care for you, love you and look out for you are your family.. be it blood or not.

Okie dokie.. I am back to Ancestry... gotta add all of those hints.. LOL
Take care everyone

[montygarlic]

You might check out WikiTree.com

Worldwide collaborative effort - absolutely free.

If you know his name, you might find someone from City-Data Forums over there as a Supervisor, Project Manager and Greeter...

[jasper12]

My family is Mormon....they love geneology. We once took a trip to Europe, just to spend time in basements of old churches, and taking pictures of graveyards, tombstones, as my Grandmother wanted information for her book. For a church project she spent twenty hours a week typing in logs from Ellis Island, for the geneology library in Utah.

So, if you ever look at those records, think of my Grandma. She loved doing that work.

[Reziac]

I remember when genealogy had kinda fallen out of favor and it was passe to wonder where your ancestors came from... I think interest was largely revived in the general public by the Mormon focus on genealogy becoming better known as the archives were opened to the public. And now that I'm living in Mormon country, I gotta git me down to one of the local archives and have a dig.

Ironically, great-grandpa's brother was a famous preacher who tried to run the Mormons out of Idaho!

[DontLookPhoto]

Hey Reziac, when you moved "Brendansport Saggita IV" back up north did you move your dog training enterprise with you ?
We have a new dog, (not a Lab). He is already over a year old and he really needs "Doggy Camp"
He is half Border Collie and almost half J.R. Terrier, an energetic mutt really. He survived Parvo and is one hand-full of two hand-fulls worth of dog ! He is a cuddly loving puppy-like dog but wild as heck.

Below are two photos of our "Wild One"

[Reziac]

Yeah, the doggy camp went along, right now it's the Mudhens tho!

Pretty fella even if he is makin' you work