Typical - Missoula (Kremlin: credit, houses, schools)

[JoeJoeMan]

For any of you folks out there that are wondering/asking what Missoula is like.
This was the lead/cover story in the local paper. A couple months ago they ran a feature story on a local lady of the night, human interest you know....Anyway you read what you want into it, I'm just point out that this is the kind of stuff/articles that is in the paper and in the new stands around town, which should tell you something about our lovely little liberal maximus town....where the yuppies have more dogs than children and the town is closing schools for lack of enrollment.
I ain't saying nothing about my attitude or opinion, I'm just pointing you to the link.

The Missoula Independent Online - Our Homo Town

By the way that's the newspaper's wording for the link NOT mine, so if you have a problem with it email them......

[jcbmontana]

Do you have a personal vendetta against Missoula or are you just another troll?

[GiftShoppeGuy]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeMan

For any of you folks out there that are wondering/asking what Missoula is like.
This was the lead/cover story in the local paper. A couple months ago they ran a feature story on a local lady of the night, human interest you know....Anyway you read what you want into it, I'm just point out that this is the kind of stuff/articles that is in the paper and in the new stands around town, which should tell you something about our lovely little liberal maximus town....where the yuppies have more dogs than children and the town is closing schools for lack of enrollment.
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Missoula has always been the "red headed step-child" of Montana, and the article doesn't really surprise me in the least.

You'ld think that gays would get it through their heads that Montana "is not" California or Washington.

[JoeJoeMan]

jcbmontana wrote:

Do you have a personal vendetta against Missoula or are you just another troll?

Neither of the above, but you already know that....so what's your point ?
I'm perfectly aware that your comment is designed to discredit the messenger(me), It's and old and cheap trick, try it on someone else.


I didn't write the news article, I'm just putting the link to it, the article says what it says, that fact that it's a cover story says something else again about the town. So anyone should feel free to gather their own conclusions, whatever they may be.

[jcbmontana]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeMan

jcbmontana wrote:


Neither of the above, but you already know that....so what's your point ?
I'm perfectly aware that your comment is designed to discredit the messenger(me), It's and old and cheap trick, try it on someone else.


I didn't write the news article, I'm just putting the link to it, the article says what it says, that fact that it's a cover story says something else again about the town. So anyone should feel free to gather their own conclusions, whatever they may be.

You are not simply "The Messenger" as you state, you have numerous biased posts against Missoula. So I ask again, do you have a personal vendatta against Missoula or are you simply a troll?

Also, don't accuse me of resorting to cheap tricks when the whole purpose of your post is to mislead. The article you posted is from a local art and opinion paper, not a NEWS article as you say.

[jimj]

Isn't there better things to argue over? We all get that this paper is not the main paper for missoula, if I read it without ever knowing the town I would think it was one of those free throwaway papers just from the type of articles on the front page. There is no major paper that left wing, not even in the Kremlin west, the left coast home to communisim berzerkely.

Yes, joejoe takes shots at Missoula, but he also takes shots at cities in the flathead. His way of making people see both sides of towns not just thinking it's heaven on earth here and I think if he can stop one more person from moving here he would be happy.
That's fine, there are many who think like that but don't have the intestinal fortitude to say it, he does and I have to respect that.
Anyway, he's no troll just someone IMO that is tired of the influx of "pie in the sky lookie me I live in Montana,why isn't it more like xxx" crowds.

[JoeJoeMan]

jimj - thank you

[JoeJoeMan]

jcbmontana wrote

You are not simply "The Messenger" as you state, you have numerous biased posts against Missoula. So I ask again, do you have a personal vendatta against Missoula or are you simply a troll?

Also, don't accuse me of resorting to cheap tricks when the whole purpose of your post is to mislead. The article you posted is from a local art and opinion paper, not a NEWS article as you say.

First off it's not a bias, it's an opinion. Second you're right I do state problems with Missoula, If this was a forum about home cooking, I'd be trashing my own cook. So what....The word 'bias' seems to taken on a new meaning of late,....ie. anything or person you disagree with...well they must be 'bias'....give it break already please, I'm getting tired of the changing the meaning of words we've become so fond of in america lately.
And how you rounded up the word 'vendetta' to use is beyond me, what does that have to do with the price of eggs....?
I'm not misleading anyone - I DIDN'T WRITE THE ARTICLE - CALL THE NEWSPAPER UP IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT ---- gee whiz already........The Independent can be found in just about every store around town right next to, what you would probably call the 'real' newspaper - the Missoulian.
The article is from the Missoula Independent, newspaper, magazine, newsletter, call it whatever you want I don't care, call it a story call it an article, call it news call it a story, call it whatever you want, call any of it anything you want......
Go read the article, like it, don't like, whatever, I don't care.....
Missoula is a goofy town for better or worse or for a bit of both, ask anyone that lives there, I'm sure they'd whole heartedly agree. And most of them make fun of their own town all the time.......so what.
I'm just bring to light just one aspect or character or the town in general. If the article by it's meer presents in a newspaper (if I can call it that) suggest something unintended to some people, or is distaste for to some, or is an uncomfortable fit for anyone wanting to move here......I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I don't make the sun shine or the rain fall either, AND IT"S NOT MY PAPER......I DIDN'T TELL THEM TO RUN THE ARTICLE.....beside the article is nothing but pro gay and very sympathetic to the cause. which I'm sure makes some people very happy - is there a problem with that ?

[jcbmontana]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeMan

jcbmontana wrote


First off it's not a bias, it's an opinion. Second you're right I do state problems with Missoula, If this was a forum about home cooking, I'd be trashing my own cook. So what....The word 'bias' seems to taken on a new meaning of late,....ie. anything or person you disagree with...well they must be 'bias'....give it break already please, I'm getting tired of the changing the meaning of words we've become so fond of in america lately.
And how you rounded up the word 'vendetta' to use is beyond me, what does that have to do with the price of eggs....?
I'm not misleading anyone - I DIDN'T WRITE THE ARTICLE - CALL THE NEWSPAPER UP IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT ---- gee whiz already........The Independent can be found in just about every store around town right next to, what you would probably call the 'real' newspaper - the Missoulian.
The article is from the Missoula Independent, newspaper, magazine, newsletter, call it whatever you want I don't care, call it a story call it an article, call it news call it a story, call it whatever you want, call any of it anything you want......
Go read the article, like it, don't like, whatever, I don't care.....
Missoula is a goofy town for better or worse or for a bit of both, ask anyone that lives there, I'm sure they'd whole heartedly agree. And most of them make fun of their own town all the time.......so what.
I'm just bring to light just one aspect or character or the town in general. If the article by it's meer presents in a newspaper (if I can call it that) suggest something unintended to some people, or is distaste for to some, or is an uncomfortable fit for anyone wanting to move here......I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I don't make the sun shine or the rain fall either, AND IT"S NOT MY PAPER......I DIDN'T TELL THEM TO RUN THE ARTICLE.....beside the article is nothing but pro gay and very sympathetic to the cause. which I'm sure makes some people very happy - is there a problem with that ?

Sorry if I chose my words poorly, but do not use that to discredit my post. That is an even older and cheaper trick than you previously accused me of.

My problem is not with you having a positive or negative view of Missoula. The whole point of my post is that you claim to be "The Messenger" when it is so obvious you have an agenda, that's all. I have no problem with you stating your opinion, I might disagree, but that is my right as well.

[jimj]

Hopefully this will end the argument (unless of course it keeps going just because). I think we can all agree that JoeJoe has an agenda, before you blow a gasket joejoe read on....

News flash, just about everyone on this forum has an agenda. You have the group that wants everyone to love this place like they do, you have the group that recently moved here and wants (for some unkown reason) everyone from where they came from to move here, the group that has been here for eons and wants to close the door,the group that moved here and wants to leave and the group that changes it's collective mind from day to day and one last group that wants to close down all open space to human intrusion and build dense row houses in clusters like the city they came from. Did I miss anyone?
Rarely will you find someone that is totally altruistic and doing things just becasue. People are motivated by agenda, either monitary, spirtitual or political so when it comes to conversations and such I have found it best to try to get over it and maybe look at someone else's side.
Bottom line, enjoy the conversations, realize we all live in the same state and we have enough pressure from outside, so enjoy the banter but try to keep it civil.